17th place would be a massive success this year, the only real goal is to stay up. What happens after that is a bonus.

23 points means that with 17 more (maximum) we would be safe. Could be less....

That’s 21 games to get 17 points. If we got 5 draws that leaves 16 games to get 4 wins. I’d be putting my money on now if I were a betting man.

Read an interesting piece on how Spurs basically managed Phillips out of the game.
Most of our play comes from Phillips and they stuck Ndomble on him and starved the feed to our wide players thus nullifying how we play.
Now not all teams will be capable of doing that but I guess that`s now down to Bielsa to work out how we overcome this if it does happen again.

A few of the better sides have done that to us with Philips. Man U, Leicester, Spurs etc. We don’t have the quality to adjust when it happens at the moment

We do look ponderous at the back and are getting done for pace quite a bit in our final third.

But then again we do have x3 centre backs out and are very much ad-hoc at the moment.

Hopefully with troops back and a sensible transfer window we can get back some steel in the defence.

1 point per game and we are safe as houses I think

I’m gutted football hasn’t been suspended. We’d have been nailed on for being champions after the break....

Sheesh, I mean, do these "pundits" all sit in a room and pick a crap opinion and then they all have to rote learn it and use it every time or?

They must do!

Thoughts on today?

We’ve a wretched streak in the FA Cup.

Couldn't care less about the cup this year.