Just what Gannon needs at 18 and doing well making his way in the game, 'here you go lad bit more weight for your shoulders, captain us out of this mess would you?'

At this point I'd be worried about losing Oledski. Being whipped every game and carrying our pack won't make him want to stay

I was referring to his much quoted lack of vocabulary and trying to use words that have no relevance.
I wasn`t talking about his coaching faults even though he has had no SL experience he did well to rally the players and get the team spirit back.

Lack of vocabulary? He has an excellent vocabulary, used in the most bizarre ways. He basically converts preaching sermons from Church to team talks. All delivered with great passion and enthusiasm. I loved listening to him talking and disappointed not to be hearing more……

I imagine that performance will have led to some players' cards being marked straight away. Smith has been very diplomatic so far but I think he has to show some real steel straight away, as this group of players just keeps turning in terrible performances with no consequences. You'd make allowances for long-term absentees being rusty and give them a few weeks, and some of the younger players deserve a run before discarding them, but what excuses do any of the others have?

We need a huge clearout at the end of this season, although the need for change is so great I can't see us doing enough in one off-season to make us genuine competitors. We're poor in way too many areas and the constant re-signing of hacks and laughable recruitment of overseas players has left us in an awful mess.

Id add James Bentley in with Tetevano, he's been absolute poop, offers nothing with the ball and we're just relieved he gets through a game for the full 80, tries hard, but is that enough? not for me, more penaltys conceded again yesterday. Terrible signing so far

Worrying isnt it, thought the same after the first Salford game when our pack Couldn't get over the top of King and Ormendroyd, honestly, they're an embarrassment.

Pleased to see Tyler get his super league career started though, he'l be a good SL prop in the not too distant future.

It all starts with the forwards doesn't it? We have no go forward and that makes it really hard for the halfbacks to function. The problem is, fix the pack and the lack of quality spine will be the next big thing to fix....Can you imagine Peacock/Leuluai vs King and Ormondroyd?

Fwiw I don’t think that would be as one sided as you’d think. King has been one of the be best props in SL this season and clearly Ormondroyd has improved a lot. They’d both get in our first choice seventeen……

I have no doubt they'd get in our first choice 17. Would they at Sts? One maybe but not both. Salford are not a team that's going to genuinely challenge for the title, and their forwards just flattened ours. Again. Out hope is that Holroyd gets and stays fit, Prior has more left than we thought and Gannon just keeps progressing. But even with all of them available we're a genuine prop short.