Post subject: Re: Have Leeds lost hunger, as a club?
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:32 pm
Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino
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christopher wrote:I don’t think the club has lost hunger, im not even sure what that means, I think we’ve had a perfect storm of incidents that’s seen us underachieve for a few years (it will come back)
End of the Golden Generation, which could have been handled better I agree.
Building of the stadium which was a big undertaking and will have affected financials and money available, but this needed to be done.
Covid, which having just built the stadium and not being able to use it properly which simply couldn’t have been factored in.
Mistakes on coaching front and neglecting the academy.
Unfortunately this will take time to iron out and its not just about throwing money at it because weve seen all to often in RL it just doesn’t work like that and the long term stability of the club is far more important than throwing money about to try and buy titles.
Good post.
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Post subject: Re: Have Leeds lost hunger, as a club?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:58 am
Once were Loiners
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Joined: Dec 15 2021 Posts: 1120
Its been so badly managed that the years of 'transition' to date have been completely wasted. The clearout that was so obviously needed is almost done - there will be hardly any players left at the start of next year who were here at the start of 2022, and even fewer starting in key positions. That should have happened years ago. It didn't and we are still right at the start of developing a quality team.
Smith is right in saying that the best way to success is to develop as many quality players as you can, and then bring in quality. Problem is that while we may have a lot of talented kids at the club now, it will be at least 3-4 years before we have enough of them at the right stage of development to make a real difference. Even that approach only works if you bring in real quality to fill the gaps. Ali, Senior, Bai, Webb, Donald, Peacock, Leuluai, Ellis etc were as important to the Golden Generation succeeding as having Sinfield and co come through the juniors.
Unless we get the signings right - and its looking shaky right now - we will still be struggling even if the kids turn out as hoped.
Post subject: Re: Have Leeds lost hunger, as a club?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:05 am
tomlufc
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 31 2006 Posts: 272
Once were Loiners wrote:Its been so badly managed that the years of 'transition' to date have been completely wasted. The clearout that was so obviously needed is almost done - there will be hardly any players left at the start of next year who were here at the start of 2022, and even fewer starting in key positions. That should have happened years ago. It didn't and we are still right at the start of developing a quality team.
Smith is right in saying that the best way to success is to develop as many quality players as you can, and then bring in quality. Problem is that while we may have a lot of talented kids at the club now, it will be at least 3-4 years before we have enough of them at the right stage of development to make a real difference. Even that approach only works if you bring in real quality to fill the gaps. Ali, Senior, Bai, Webb, Donald, Peacock, Leuluai, Ellis etc were as important to the Golden Generation succeeding as having Sinfield and co come through the juniors.
Unless we get the signings right - and its looking shaky right now - we will still be struggling even if the kids turn out as hoped.
Every year is the start of the new transition then we desperately try to get rid of last season's signings who are this season's deadwood.
Post subject: Re: Have Leeds lost hunger, as a club?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:21 am
batleyrhino
International Board Member
Joined: Feb 26 2002 Posts: 9375 Location: anywhere, literally...
Once were Loiners wrote:Its been so badly managed that the years of 'transition' to date have been completely wasted. The clearout that was so obviously needed is almost done - there will be hardly any players left at the start of next year who were here at the start of 2022, and even fewer starting in key positions. That should have happened years ago. It didn't and we are still right at the start of developing a quality team.
Smith is right in saying that the best way to success is to develop as many quality players as you can, and then bring in quality. Problem is that while we may have a lot of talented kids at the club now, it will be at least 3-4 years before we have enough of them at the right stage of development to make a real difference. Even that approach only works if you bring in real quality to fill the gaps. Ali, Senior, Bai, Webb, Donald, Peacock, Leuluai, Ellis etc were as important to the Golden Generation succeeding as having Sinfield and co come through the juniors.
Unless we get the signings right - and its looking shaky right now - we will still be struggling even if the kids turn out as hoped.
Excellent Post.
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