Post subject: Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:26 pm
William Eve
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 07 2005 Posts: 4938
ThePrinter wrote:Welcome to the world of sport. Performance isn't a gimme and teams and individuals have flopped on the biggest of occasions never mind a friendly.
Although your opinions sometimes act as a useful counterbalance to some of the more negative opinions on here, you may have been better off on this occasion maintaining your silence and keeping what's left of your integrity in tact, as you managed so successfully yesterday.
Even those fans who are the most uncritical, who live, breath and worship the Rhinos... even they are mightily peed off with yesterday's performance rather than the result itself. These are fans who were magnificent last season, who turned up week in, week out, despite the shower of smelly brown stuff being served up and sprayed all over until Segeyaro arrived and cleaned the place up a bit.
The reaction by many to that performance yesterday indicates that the fanbase aren't going to be so forgiving or supportive of the same stinky stuff (or worse) being served up in 2017. They didn't like what they saw... a window pointing directly at 2017... and they certainly weren't expecting the smell to be worse than last season either.
Post subject: Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:46 pm
ThePrinter
Player Coach
Joined: Sep 12 2010 Posts: 11412 Location: Behind the picket fence on the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza, Dallas, Texas.
William Eve wrote:Although your opinions sometimes act as a useful counterbalance to some of the more negative opinions on here, you may have been better off on this occasion maintaining your silence and keeping what's left of your integrity in tact, as you managed so successfully yesterday.
Even those fans who are the most uncritical, who live, breath and worship the Rhinos... even they are mightily peed off with yesterday's performance rather than the result itself. These are fans who were magnificent last season, who turned up week in, week out, despite the shower of smelly brown stuff being served up and sprayed all over until Segeyaro arrived and cleaned the place up a bit.
The reaction by many to that performance yesterday indicates that the fanbase aren't going to be so forgiving or supportive of the same stinky stuff (or worse) being served up in 2017. They didn't like what they saw... a window pointing directly at 2017... and they certainly weren't expecting the smell to be worse than last season either.
Coming from a guy who constantly criticises the fan base for turning up and calling them sheep etc. then your faux concern is laughable.
You ridicule people for turning up during the season then offer fake sympathy for a pre season friendly. Sorry William I see through your fake concern for others as it's clearly BS just because those people are quite heavy on slating the club right now. The club start doing well again and your opionion on fans will alter again.
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Post subject: Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:16 pm
loiner81
Club Coach
Joined: Dec 16 2004 Posts: 3479
RHINO-MARK wrote:That must include the hypocrite Coach then because BEFORE the game it mattered & he refers to last years game more than once as a marker for what then occured throughout 2016.
...and then he put a team of kids out.
RHINO-MARK wrote:T Also you weren't there flower so can't even comprehend how bad it actually was & that's allowing for the result not mattering or that its a friendly
I'm sure it was crap, it was always going to be though as we had 10 players out and more importantly............ the season doesn't start for 2 months! It's why I spent the morning in bed, watching TV and eating cake.
Gotcha in 2016 wrote:McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.
Post subject: Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:43 pm
Sal Paradise
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18072 Location: On the road
loiner81 wrote:...and then he put a team of kids out.
I'm sure it was crap, it was always going to be though as we had 10 players out and more importantly............ the season doesn't start for 2 months! It's why I spent the morning in bed, watching TV and eating cake.
How many of the players that turned out - can't say played - will be integral to next season - I would say the vast majority of the starting line up only Jordan-Roberts and Aston will not feature. Of the 13 it is likely at least 8 will be in the starting line up come round 1 in the subs Mullally, Walters and possibly Smith will be part of the squad. Not quite a team of kids eh?
If this is an indication of the depth of the squad then it suggests all is not well - but then a number on here have been suggesting that for a while.
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Post subject: Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:22 pm
Neruda
Player Coach
Joined: Jul 15 2009 Posts: 712
Sal Paradise wrote:How many of the players that turned out - can't say played - will be integral to next season - I would say the vast majority of the starting line up only Jordan-Roberts and Aston will not feature. Of the 13 it is likely at least 8 will be in the starting line up come round 1 in the subs Mullally, Walters and possibly Smith will be part of the squad. Not quite a team of kids eh?
Theres a difference between appearing for the team and being integral to the season.
I would say I would expect Watkins, Moon, Hall, McGuire, Parcell, Ward and JJB to all feature in the starting 13, with Ferres and Burrow on the bench. I make that 9 of the 17. Of the subs from yesterday i expect only Mullaley will feature regularly.
Yes they were crap, but it was half a team
Quote:If this is an indication of the depth of the squad then it suggests all is not well - but then a number on here have been suggesting that for a while.
Post subject: Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:55 pm
RHINO-MARK
Club Captain
Joined: Feb 10 2016 Posts: 2356
Neruda wrote:Theres a difference between appearing for the team and being integral to the season.
I would say I would expect Watkins, Moon, Hall, McGuire, Parcell, Ward and JJB to all feature in the starting 13, with Ferres and Burrow on the bench. I make that 9 of the 17. Of the subs from yesterday i expect only Mullaley will feature regularly.
Yes they were crap, but it was half a team
Some have been suggesting it for about 7 years
Ward Purcell & Jjb aside given how ineffective inconsistent & pure sh*# last season the rest were it hardly instills confidence knowing what's gonna be added to yesterday either. Looking at our best 17 as it stands we'll be lucky to get 5th/6th imo should we get 3/4 injuries we'll be lucky to get 8th.
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Post subject: Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:31 pm
Whatisup
Club Captain
Joined: Dec 26 2016 Posts: 5
William Eve wrote:Although your opinions sometimes act as a useful counterbalance to some of the more negative opinions on here, you may have been better off on this occasion maintaining your silence and keeping what's left of your integrity in tact, as you managed so successfully yesterday.
Even those fans who are the most uncritical, who live, breath and worship the Rhinos... even they are mightily peed off with yesterday's performance rather than the result itself. These are fans who were magnificent last season, who turned up week in, week out, despite the shower of smelly brown stuff being served up and sprayed all over until Segeyaro arrived and cleaned the place up a bit.
The reaction by many to that performance yesterday indicates that the fanbase aren't going to be so forgiving or supportive of the same stinky stuff (or worse) being served up in 2017. They didn't like what they saw... a window pointing directly at 2017... and they certainly weren't expecting the smell to be worse than last season either.
Yes, Leeds were absolutely terrible yesterday... Clueless in attack. I don't think Sutcliffe and Lilley cut the mustard for me.
Post subject: Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity.
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:29 pm
Sal Paradise
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18072 Location: On the road
Neruda wrote:Theres a difference between appearing for the team and being integral to the season.
I would say I would expect Watkins, Moon, Hall, McGuire, Parcell, Ward and JJB to all feature in the starting 13, with Ferres and Burrow on the bench. I make that 9 of the 17. Of the subs from yesterday i expect only Mullaley will feature regularly.
Yes they were crap, but it was half a team
Some have been suggesting it for about 7 years
Only one GF in the last four years perhaps they have a point
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Post subject: Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity.
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:13 am
Biff Tannen
International Star
Joined: Jul 22 2012 Posts: 6848 Location: Hill Valley
we will finish 5th/6th at best and will be lucky to avoid middle 8's in reality, anyone thinking better than that now is living in a fantasy world imo. the spine simply isn't good enough and the pack is too placid for me. There is no strength in depth to boot. could be another long season ahead.
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