You too pal. It was good for RL to see Leeds back up there last season. You've got a top coach imo and you'll be sorted one way or another.

Wishing you all the best for this year.

Agree Chris. But i'd hope we'd not start so poorly this season and buck the recent trend.. i think that's whats most annoying about this. Lose to Hull next week and we'll more than likely be 0-3 as it is then Saints away.. we'll be behind the 8 ball already.

Not surprising we had such an abismal night considering we treat preseason like a joke and got rid of good players and replaced them with championship players (who may come good granted). I don't buy the not having enough for hardaker story. We had enough money to offer him 1 year and have players off contract at the end of this. He could've gone to fb next year and helped out in centres this.

No line speed or effort. Players going through motions. Kind of reminds me of under 10s. Especially not having a captain.

I can honestly say that i reckon Amy Hardcastle would be a better centre even in the men's game; over Handley or Fusitua.

Can we dual-reg her?

Hardaker wouldn't have made any difference to that game. He wouldn't start fullback if Myler plays there, so those mistakes would still have happened. The tries from near the line were mostly due to awful one on one technique and effort by other players, mainly forwards. Letting Wire get that close to the line set after set was due to to our passive defence not even slowing them down, let alone stopping them making big yards.

I do think the centre selection was wrong. Handley's played there before and just looks like a winger playing centre. Fusitu'a is a winger, and is the best we have at returning kicks so moving him there doesn't make much sense either. If he didn't trust Olpherts/Roberts e should have put Martin in one spot, as he may not be that quick but he's solid.

Its strange to have a got at our signings as below par. Lisone was very poor to start with, but he's an NRL player, not a Championship one and will hopefully come good. Olpherts was one of our best along with Sangare, and holding Roberts in any way responsible for that shower of a performance is nonsense. No, the players who let us down were in the main the same ones we had last year.

The whole display lacked intensity, as with the preseason. Pick that up, especially line speed in defence and working hard and we'll look a lot better.

I have to say, having watched that performance, I was expecting a much closer contest. I got the impression that you looked undercooked and possibly, there maybe some squad unrest? Most of the game, there was no real cohesion and, even with the players you are missing, that squad is better than the score line suggests. Maybe last season was a bit of a false dawn and Smith achieved a minor miracle , with the team winning so many to make the GF. You won't be in any relegation dogfight I am sure, but there needs to be a hell of a turnaround if you want to replicate last years heroics.

I don't think squad unrest is an issue, we were just undercooked and beaten by a much better side on the night - it happens, I think we can tend to overthink the reasons for a loss sometimes

It might actually be the reality check/kick up the backside we needed, Leeds rhinos have a history of starting slow, nothing is won in February. This is not me saying Im OK with the performance because it was dire but it is only round one.

Anyone know who the 18th man was?

Walters I think