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 Post subject: Re: Round 19| Huddersfield Away
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 12:54 pm 
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tigertot wrote:It is no different to the swinging arm going off the arm or shoulder into the head of the defender. It might be accidental but on your logic anyone could do that, break someone's jaw, but claim the initial contact was legal.

Arms going off the the ball or arm of the ball carrier don't result in a red card or a 4 game ban.
Claiming he went in leading with elbow is factually wrong, and we've seen the same reviewed by MRP this season and results in no ban.
Not sure what youre arguing about.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 19| Huddersfield Away
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Neruda wrote:Arms going off the the ball or arm of the ball carrier don't result in a red card or a 4 game ban.
Claiming he went in leading with elbow is factually wrong, and we've seen the same reviewed by MRP this season and results in no ban.
Not sure what youre arguing about.

The first contact is with the forearm/elbow. I am not sure how you can dispute it. It is then Lisone's responsibility to control where it goes & for the after-effects of it. There was no malicious intent IMO but it will be a ban. An elbow can cause far more damage than an arm. I can't believe you do not understand the rules.






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 Post subject: Re: Round 19| Huddersfield Away
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tigertot wrote:The first contact is with the forearm/elbow. I am not sure how you can dispute it. It is then Lisone's responsibility to control where it goes & for the after-effects of it. There was no malicious intent IMO but it will be a ban. An elbow can cause far more damage than an arm. I can't believe you do not understand the rules.

I can dispute it by using my eyes, and seeing Lisone has his arm tucked against his body going into the tackle, arm is then raised as defender falls backwards off the tackle


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 Post subject: Re: Round 19| Huddersfield Away
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:15 pm 
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Funny game this one. Takeways for me are that you can definitely see some positive influence from Arthur as expected, but the squad just looks exposed at this point.

Thought Huddersfield were dire in patches.

Not at all impressed with our first half, thought we dished up some garbage but we look better because our defensive line is quicker and more aggressive.

We just look small and slow. Bentley was great with his energy when he came on, and I think he works best in that role as a wasp when the opposition is tired. But when he, O'Connor and Donaldson are on the field together in the pack, it's vaguely depressing. Was also depressing to see Mom get caught on his clean break, it's the first time I think I've seen him stretch his legs and he wasn't quick enough. Jack Smith would have finished that.

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tigertot wrote:The first contact is with the forearm/elbow. I am not sure how you can dispute it. It is then Lisone's responsibility to control where it goes & for the after-effects of it. There was no malicious intent IMO but it will be a ban. An elbow can cause far more damage than an arm. I can't believe you do not understand the rules.


Just prior o the contact Lisone had transitioned the ball from his left hand into his right hand with hi elbow tucked into his body. The natural reaction of any player would be to bring your elbow away from your body as you are running, this "promoted" hi elbow into the tackle.






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 Post subject: Re: Round 19| Huddersfield Away
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KaeruJim wrote:Funny game this one. Takeways for me are that you can definitely see some positive influence from Arthur as expected, but the squad just looks exposed at this point.

Thought Huddersfield were dire in patches.

Not at all impressed with our first half, thought we dished up some garbage but we look better because our defensive line is quicker and more aggressive.

We just look small and slow. Bentley was great with his energy when he came on, and I think he works best in that role as a wasp when the opposition is tired. But when he, O'Connor and Donaldson are on the field together in the pack, it's vaguely depressing. Was also depressing to see Mom get caught on his clean break, it's the first time I think I've seen him stretch his legs and he wasn't quick enough. Jack Smith would have finished that.


Yeah we do. we lack Xfactor pace in the back line (Miller has a bit as does Handley but that's it). The pack is very small, there's very little tackle busting ability Lisone apart.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 19| Huddersfield Away
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Watch the first half again it really was dreadful and against nearly any other team we would be miles behind .

The Ref was truly shocking


I was prepared to pay for a charter flight out of my own pocket after 30mins for all our recent Aussie signings. I would have had the whole lot of ‘em gone. Three of them improved fortunately, but having seen Momorovski running down a touch line that had apparently been replaced with a treadmill I’d have saved a seat for him. It’s always nice to beat our jealous little neighbours down the road, but my heart bleeds for that poor bugger Ken Davy whenever the camera pans onto him. We may just be prolonging the agony and raising false hope, but at least we can be thankful we will never be Huddersfield.






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 Post subject: Re: Round 19| Huddersfield Away
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I felt similar on that one. Frawls has been playing well last 2 games, relatively. If we can get him kicking in good ball he's effective, he's just rubbish at distance.

I'm just praying that behind the scenes BA is getting to like the players and the club, to the point where he wants to give us next year to help us.

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leeds owl wrote:I was prepared to pay for a charter flight out of my own pocket after 30mins for all our recent Aussie signings. I would have had the whole lot of ‘em gone. Three of them improved fortunately, but having seen Momorovski running down a touch line that had apparently been replaced with a treadmill I’d have saved a seat for him. It’s always nice to beat our jealous little neighbours down the road, but my heart bleeds for that poor bugger Ken Davy whenever the camera pans onto him. We may just be prolonging the agony and raising false hope, but at least we can be thankful we will never be Huddersfield.



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 Post subject: Re: Round 19| Huddersfield Away
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KaeruJim wrote:I felt similar on that one. Frawls has been playing well last 2 games, relatively. If we can get him kicking in good ball he's effective, he's just rubbish at distance.

I'm just praying that behind the scenes BA is getting to like the players and the club, to the point where he wants to give us next year to help us.


The standard of Rugby (first half last night especially ) the shocking reffing and the way he was shaking his head makes me think he will be gone end of the season

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