Jack Burton wrote:This all goes back to pre season. Everything seems to be half @rsed and lacks intensity. I like the fact that we don't want to be overly structured, but you have to have structure to fall back on in order to stay in games. It seems like Smith is trying to reinvent the wheel.

That being said, there's still lots of holes in this team. Most of the pivots are ageing and inconsistent, and the pack lacks experience. This is no quick fix and we have to be patient, but if we don't make the playoffs it will be difficult to argue Smith shouldn't go.

Seth wrote:Yeah and we're not one of the competitive sides. It's not the results it's the manner of the truly abject performances and after 2 weeks to prepare with a near full strength side, simply dreadful.

chapylad wrote:Wigan losing to Hull and Saints losing their 4th game in 5.
We should have no problem beating them!
Mat Shaw once again giving bizarre ratings with Bentley our best player.
Sinfield did ok behind a well beaten pack.
Mik for me overrated, Lisone good going forward crap in defence, O`Connor a good back up hooker but not the answer same goes for Johnson, Smith and McDonnel not their finest games.
Austin again not good enough and Martin must be streets ahead on errors and mis tackles.
Not sure if Newman will still be here next year either.
Smith yes he needs time but how long?
Don`t think he should go as nobody available and I can`t stand another year of rebuilding.
HS2 will be done by the time we have a proper team ffs.
Our passive defence and lack of structure along with off the cuff plays only gets you partly there.
Defence, discipline and a game plan is also required in order to win trophies.

Sir Gregory ParsloeP wrote:I wanted Smith to work but I fear he could be in trouble already.

Tonight was really poor but in the last 20 minutes we started playing with aggression some of it misdirected and born out of frustration but it was there.

It needed to be there for the first 60. I think some players like Newman are not happy with the game plan.
Leeming has gone and I fear he is at risk of losing the dressing room.

There have simply been too many games where we have not been in the contest.

fanstanningley wrote:Why do you think Newman wont be here next season?

christopher wrote:Teams where the dressing room has been lost don’t try, that’s not our problem in some instances were trying too hard.

Sir Gregory ParsloeP wrote:Can’t speak for chapylad but I think he looks very frustrated with what’s going on

FlyingScottyDonald wrote:I have to say I wonder about the recruitment / new contract for existing players at our club, granted, our academy players (some of them) have been good finds, but the likes of Sutcliffe, Dwyer (love him or hate him) Briscoe, Hardaker, Broadbent... why the F are we letting these players go? Surely good players should be paid to stick around for us. Especially Hardaker. Rohan must of had some input as to WHY he thinks we shouldn't keep them.