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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:47 pm 
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How does that gel with the Dragons' powder puff attack? Last week was a good example of why Widdopp needs to change the way he plays. He set up one try with a nice early pass to Dugan who was running from deep. The whole rest of the game Widdopp was in his usual left channel trying to create plays via a flat attacking line close to the defence. He hasn't looked like setting up a try that way all season, and didn't for much of last year as well. It's obviously not just down to him, but the Dragons and Widdopp need to play with more depth to the attacking line IMO.

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sgtwilko wrote:Funny that, there is a lot of fans, players and pundits down here who rate Widdop as a genuine word class 5/8.

I'm in that camp.

Really we get most of the media over here now either via premier sports or the net I don't red or see anyone suggesting Widdop is world class half back - i would be interested in who you think is suggesting he is?






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Sal Paradise wrote:Really we get most of the media over here now either via premier sports or the net I don't red or see anyone suggesting Widdop is world class half back - i would be interested in who you think is suggesting he is?

No you don't get most of the media you get a fraction.

I'm aware of you dislike for Widdop from previous.






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Widdop is bang average. The dragons have been really poor this year, especially on attack. Now that's not all down to him, but is he is as good as people say, with the experience he's got surely he's be able to pull them out of a hole.

Slightly better version of Matty Smith Imo, lots of effort without much end product.

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bloody good goal kicker though

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Barrie's Glass Eye wrote:Widdop is bang average. The dragons have been really poor this year, especially on attack. Now that's not all down to him, but is he is as good as people say, with the experience he's got surely he's be able to pull them out of a hole.

Slightly better version of Matty Smith Imo, lots of effort without much end product.


Bang average is a hell of a lot better than we currently have.






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Barrie's Glass Eye wrote:Widdop is bang average. The dragons have been really poor this year, especially on attack. Now that's not all down to him, but is he is as good as people say, with the experience he's got surely he's be able to pull them out of a hole.

Slightly better version of Matty Smith Imo, lots of effort without much end product.


Bang average? Most on here would be wanking him off if he came. Fact!

Seen a few of your posts over the last few days that really make me think you have two glass eyes!

Does my head in on here how most just seem to follow the view of the majority, widdop IMO would be a vast improvement on what we currently have and provide us with what we lost in sinfield.

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Widdop is far better than any half back in super league, and I am including Carney in that.






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BrisbaneRhino wrote:How does that gel with the Dragons' powder puff attack? Last week was a good example of why Widdopp needs to change the way he plays. He set up one try with a nice early pass to Dugan who was running from deep. The whole rest of the game Widdopp was in his usual left channel trying to create plays via a flat attacking line close to the defence. He hasn't looked like setting up a try that way all season, and didn't for much of last year as well. It's obviously not just down to him, but the Dragons and Widdopp need to play with more depth to the attacking line IMO.



Bloody hell, swap the players names and the club, and you would be describing Leeds. Did McDermott take advice from the Dragons coach?






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I see Widdopp set up a mighty zero points on the weekend. He's so far from world Class with the ball in his hands its not funny. Like I say, its not all his fault. IMO the Dragons play way too flat, but for a player with his experience to not adjust the way he plays during games speaks volumes.

Back on topic, whilst I don't necessarily buy into the BM not coaching, it would appear that the team spirit (that some mocked in the past as overrated) is the single biggest issue within the team right now. Losing Sinfield and Peacock as leaders both on and off field seems to have tipped the squad.

Have a look at our overseas players for example:

Galloway - plodder for years would suggest not bothered about mediocrity.
Cuthbertson - ditto
Garbutt - didn't even really get started in the NRL by age 26 when less talented players have shown hard work can get you there
Falloon - part of the GC glee club.

When you add to that list some other players who need to be managed off-field (I'm looking at you Mr Hardaker), a massively successful 2015 which might have led to some others getting complacent and then pre-season issues, perhaps a poor 2016 was to be expected?

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