Joined: Oct 29 2007 Posts: 6767 Location: Now in Enemy Country
I thought Leeds would have brought more of an off loading game last night, I also thought your halves were a little under par. Peacock was massive with 250 metres but didn,t see much support play to feed off him.
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Joined: Oct 26 2003 Posts: 937 Location: Sunny Skipton
Regardless of the players Saints had missing they had Super Leagues best hooker against Leeds best scrum half. With no. 9 being such an influential position now I didn't feel confident from the start. Credit to Saints, they were always on the front foot - credit to Leeds for holding out so long & almost sneaking a draw. No knee jerk coach bashing from me.
"Not once has anyone whinged, moaned, blamed refs or looked for answers other than what's inside. That's why this is special." - Brian McDermott 08th Oct 2011
Joined: Jul 22 2012 Posts: 6848 Location: Hill Valley
Gotcha wrote:Only three players made an offload. One of them twice.
the gameplan was clear.keep it simple,complete sets,dominate in the forwards,get field position and the points will come.
we pretty much stuck to the gameplan well,just great defensive efforts and constantly poor and predictable options meant we didnt pile on the points we really should have.
AJC wrote:Regardless of the players Saints had missing they had Super Leagues best hooker against Leeds best scrum half. With no. 9 being such an influential position now I didn't feel confident from the start. Credit to Saints, they were always on the front foot - credit to Leeds for holding out so long & almost sneaking a draw. No knee jerk coach bashing from me.
Holding out? Holding out?
Have you watched the game or just listened? All the play was in Saints half. Leeds made over 500 metres more than Saints. Had more play the balls. Made Saints drop out five times.
Holding out was only one way mate. There is no credit to Leeds in that department.
Aiton's absence made a difference, assuming he'd have been picked. Burrow had a decent game scooting from dummy but his distribution from there left much to be desired. Not blaming him for this, it's simply not one of his strengths.
One of the earlier posters expressed doubts about Brown's abilities as a coach - I have to disagree. Considering the absences they had to cope with, I thought their organisation and application was superb.
Bizarrely, my main concern was our much-hyped three quarter line. Last night was the second game this year where a title rival nullified their threat almost entirely. I wouldn't categorise them as flat-track bullies just yet but Saints certainly gave them a lesson on how to attack.
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Joined: Feb 09 2005 Posts: 2928 Location: Somerset
BillyRhino wrote:BMD outfoxed by the cunning opposition ploy of fielding a reserve team!
Barstewards
Leeds came up against a Saints side who simply played on pure passion last night, you have copped this a couple of times now including rush's first game in charge when we played way above ourselves. It was a freak performance, that team couldn't do it week in week out, you were just unlucky to be in the firing line, again.
3. We have one of the best centres in the world - please give him the ball
4. Bailey has been dropped for disciplinary reasons - dont treat us like idiots be honest
5. why put all high kicks up to the competant full back and not the inexperienced winger
6. There is no lack of effort but gameplan and tactics were poor last night , and i cant remember the las time i came away from a game so dissapointed with our performance (maybe saints 2seasons ago)
7. Credit to Saints though with so many players out , they were deserved winners
ploinerrhino wrote:1. lets just keep turning the ball back inside
6. There is no lack of effort but gameplan and tactics were poor last night , and i cant remember the las time i came away from a game so dissapointed with our performance (maybe saints 2seasons ago)
7. Credit to Saints though with so many players out , they were deserved winners
Agree with these points in particular. I'd say I felt angry rather than disappointed last night. Sometimes when you can see a particular game plan isn't working it's time to try something else. Having spoken to a few other fans at H.T they also felt the "5 drives and aimless kick" was going to get us nowhere. Sinny is no Danny Brough and his so called "bombs" that land gently into the arms of fullbacks for the better teams aren't the answer. Same with his kick offs, Hardaker has more strength and skill from these situations and should be given the kick offs to ask questions from the receiver. It's not blame Sinny time, it's just pointing out a couple of glaring features that happen every game that our coach seems happy to ride with. I came away from Langtree last night feeling like I'd watched a re-run of Huddersfield in the cup last season, tons of possession in good areas, but ultimately little threat to the opponents try line. Credit to Saints for their defence, but I'm sure other decent teams would have been over a few times with that amount of territory and possession. Our pack lacks real punch and despite Peacocks yardage there's only ever Ablett who looks like breaking the line, another reason why the threequarters very rarely got the ball in broken space. All in all last night became a nagging reminder as to why we failed so miserably against the better teams last year.
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Joined: Oct 26 2003 Posts: 937 Location: Sunny Skipton
Gotcha wrote:Holding out? Holding out?
Have you watched the game or just listened? All the play was in Saints half. Leeds made over 500 metres more than Saints. Had more play the balls. Made Saints drop out five times.
Holding out was only one way mate. There is no credit to Leeds in that department.
I can't think of a more apt useage of the term holding out. Regardless of how much territory / possession we had we never looked like scoring. Saints breached our line on a few occasions in the second half & should have won by more. That we kept it level until (almost) the end is credit. Most other SL teams would have been wallopped. You obviously feel we should have mullerred them?!?!?
As difficult as it is for some people to accept, sometimes it's just not your night.
PS I watched it if you really need to know.
"Not once has anyone whinged, moaned, blamed refs or looked for answers other than what's inside. That's why this is special." - Brian McDermott 08th Oct 2011
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