Surely that's what every coach is striving for...?

Their squad still has a lot of deficiencies compared to Leeds and Saints.He's come 3rd the last 2 season's so for mine he isn't doing such a bad job.

So in 2 full seasons you expect him to turn a team around that was bottom and take them past every other team in the league, including the 2 most consistent teams of the last 4 year with far superior squads?

Can I ask, if we get turned over by Wakey next week will you start a thread about how long McClennan has left? After all, we have only finished a couple of places above them for the last 2.

Calling for his head already on the wigan board.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this is now Nobles team in that all the playing personell have either been brought in by him, or have had their contracts renewed while he has been in charge. I think last season it was pretty much his team too.

If he is the great coach the Wigan fans think he is, his team should not be losing to Wakefields second team at home.

Give a bit of credit to Wakey. All teams will have shocks this year. It's part and parcel of SL now. Wakey beat us at Headingley the year that they were nearly relegated and did you not lose to Quins at your place last season? It's the 1st game played in awful conditions. It evens things up.

Why?

I though this was going to be a Chinese penis length thread!

I’m disappointed

You're displaying the type of arrogance that Wigan fans do. Mind you, St Helens is just a small town in Wigan so what should we expect.

We should be striving for a league were these results are commonplace, not one where they're grounds to sack the coach after week 1.

Didn't Daniel Anderson and the might S lose some embarrassing games last year to teams that they "Should not have been losing to". Of course, they did lose the one to the team we all expected them to lose to. Us.

You have to question the investment being made in youth development at Wigan when the only British player in the back line including the half backs is Mathers?

Add to that Riddell, Feka and Bailey and that is nine overseas players - that is Noble all over, he deserves what coming to him.

We will never develop young talent if the likes of Goulding/Ainscough never get a game.

Wigan would be better letting them go to the likes of Celtic/Salford rather than letting them linger in the reserves