Agree. Which sadly sums up our current predicament. Can see why Tad would suggest it though. Maybe if we had some real heavyweights in the pack.

Yeah well JOC came through at 13 and then was pushed up to 9 wasn’t he?

Said it before but aside from Ackers/Johnson/JOC at hooker, the smallest player I want to see in the pack would be McDonnell. And the big ones need to be more skilful.

Again, wouldn’t be surprised if JOC was signed elsewhere next year and we ended up keeping Johnson as understudy to Ackers. Another one for Blease to sort out.

I don’t think Jarrod will be leaving.

Various players not doing strength conditioning and coach not too bothered apparently.

I hope he stays, his attitude is great but my concern is long-term where does he play?

Do you see him as our hooker longer term or back row?

Here’s another left field one: Miller at 7 to replace Frawley and Edgell to FB.

I’m looking for margins here but I’m not blown away by Miller’s D at times. He is strongest as a running threat and he has a good pass on him in the line. My thought process is to get him in the line all the time and allow Edgell to develop more in his natural position. I suspect Alfie might have better long-distance pace than Miller too, although not sure.

I know it won't be a popular view, but I'd rather we spend the rest of this year giving a proper go to some of the younger players. Get Edgell some full games at full back, give Sinfield an extended run at 7, and especially the younger forwards - Ruan, TNW and maybe Littlewood.

We wasted the back end of last year in the pretence that we were going to get into the play offs until the wheels fell off right at the end. I don't think we've got the squad to make a challenge, and even if we get in the play offs we'll do zilch. There's no point in having these kids not gain experience, as we'd then start again with them next season not having played enough to be trusted.

Never forget Rohan’s immortal words at the beginning of the season, “Training’s overrated for some of these dudes”.

You are right early on in your post when you refer to these lads as “younger players”. They are not kids, and like you say they need to be playing if there’s a chance they will figure long term with the club. Ruan is already 21 and both Edgell and Sinfield will be 20 years old by play off time. We can either waste time and money by clogging the squad up with players that are taking a wage with little chance of playing, or let them have an extended run and see if they are worth the squad number. There’s never been a better time.

At least Cas gave Wigan a game and a challenge.
Hull looked like they would never win again this season up to last Saturday and Leeds abject pathetic attitude gave them confidence that they built on to finish the game looking like giants against minnows

It’s funny that people go on about Oledski but if you offered Grix Oledski for any of his forwards he would laugh in your face

Oledski was probably our best forward but he would struggle to get into most other SL 1st 13

The only player in Leeds kit who looked like he had talent was Croft who is mired by a pathetic pack led by clueless Smith.

Rohan Smith would struggle to motivate the local girls under 9s team.

Yet another stunning appointment of Gawwy “Total incompetent” Hetherington. But let the trolls on here come to his defence with Oh Gawwy saved our club. That’s in the past now trolls