FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Halifax Panthers Accounts



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 136 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 ... 14  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:29 pm 
Club Owner
Academy Player
User avatar

Joined: Jun 03 2003
Posts: 254
London fan chiming in here...
Like Bullseye, I hope things work out for you. Really.
Probably because of my age, I've always seen you as a potential BIG club. Well, at least bigger than some of IMG's A-rated ones now.
Fans of rival teams gloating at the prospect of the demise of another rugby league club should be shot.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 6:19 am 
Club Captain
First Team Player

Joined: Mar 04 2020
Posts: 1121
Benny Profane wrote:London fan chiming in here...
Like Bullseye, I hope things work out for you. Really.
Probably because of my age, I've always seen you as a potential BIG club. Well, at least bigger than some of IMG's A-rated ones now.
Fans of rival teams gloating at the prospect of the demise of another rugby league club should be shot.


I think tony fax has a shotgun.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:23 am 
International Chairman
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 6619
Location: Halifax, the sleeping giants of Rugby League
Listenup94 wrote:I think tony fax has a shotgun.



:SHOOT:






AM I RIGHT? I'M NOT WRONG!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:33 am 
Player Coach
Club Captain

Joined: Oct 26 2005
Posts: 3212
Location: Bradford
Faxlore wrote:There is no way the council would sell the shay site for housing/ shopping or what ever and then plow that revenue into a new stadium. Even if that stadium is smaller. One the council sell the Shay, and I feel they will sooner than later, they will be done with supporting professional sport in this town.


Ok, shot in the dark time, but it's obvious the council needs a partner for the site. You guys might know more but have they actually approached anyone? Logically (i know, this is local government...) with the Piece Hall taking off, there will be demand for more hotel capacity. There's a decent amount of land there, and obviously really close to the centre and train station as well. Could a national hotel chain be persuaded to come in? Offer them the South stand to demolish and build a 3 or 4 storey hotel across the bottom of the ground, incorporating that unfinished segment in the corner. Leaving the ground, 3 stands, a hotel partner anchoring it. Or has this ship sailed in the current climate?

After what we went through, I know far too much now about insolvencies, administrators, the poisoned chalice of rfl "help" so I really feel sorry for you guys. Hope it can get sorted.






Pollsters doing Excellent job - say recent polls.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:47 am 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: Oct 26 2010
Posts: 4572
Highlander wrote:Ok, shot in the dark time, but it's obvious the council needs a partner for the site. You guys might know more but have they actually approached anyone? Logically (i know, this is local government...) with the Piece Hall taking off, there will be demand for more hotel capacity. There's a decent amount of land there, and obviously really close to the centre and train station as well. Could a national hotel chain be persuaded to come in? Offer them the South stand to demolish and build a 3 or 4 storey hotel across the bottom of the ground, incorporating that unfinished segment in the corner. Leaving the ground, 3 stands, a hotel partner anchoring it. Or has this ship sailed in the current climate?

After what we went through, I know far too much now about insolvencies, administrators, the poisoned chalice of rfl "help" so I really feel sorry for you guys. Hope it can get sorted.


Back in 2019 there was this article in the Courier, bit of a read with all the adverts but it answers some of the questions.
https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/p ... ium-983519

Here's the text without the ads.
Hotel potential at The Shay as blueprint is drawn up to develop the stadium
By Ian Hirst
Published 18th Apr 2019, 12:53 BST
Updated 18th Apr 2019, 13:04 BST
The Shay Stadium in Halifax

The future of the Shay Stadium will be put in the spotlight as Calderdale Council leaders discuss how the complex can be developed.
Calderdale Council’s director of public services Zohrah Zancudi has outlined in a report to the Place scrutiny board the potential developments of the stadium.

One of the key aspects is the future of the West Stand after a structural survey revealed a number of issues.

In her report Zohrah Zancudi said: “It is likely that in the next couple of years the stand could be condemned. This would result in a decision being required over whether to close the stand or make significant investment.
“We had looked to work with a hotel building company to provide a hotel at the stadium.

“This was linked to the development of the annex and the progress stopped at this stage. If demand exists for another hotel in Halifax then Corporate Asset and Facilities Management can be requested to look into this with a development company.”

The closure of the West Stand would not affect the provision of games to both professional clubs due to current attendance figures as currently only two of the four stands are used for match days.

The report also showed how vital it was for the council to work with both FC Halifax Town and Halifax RLFC to help with development of the Shay.

“The Shay Stadium is the principal sporting venue in Calderdale and in terms of size and operational capacity it offers great potential for future growth in both sport and event management,” said the Calderdale Council director.

“There remain challenges to realise this potential fully; we need to look at the stadium as a whole and develop a strategy for development.

“The next stage of development could depend on the success of both professional clubs.

“We need to look at how we can support and enable the clubs to be more successful. We need to work closely with both clubs to increase revenue to allow investment.”

One option is potential sponsorship of the stadium.

There is currently no sponsorship agreement for the Shay, with the previous sponsor going into administration. The intention is now for the council to work with the clubs to seek more sponsorship opportunities.

A number of development proposals have been considered in the past to move the stadium onto a more commercial footing including the sale of the annex .

The Council spoke to two potential buyers of the annex but at the latter stages of both negotiations the deals fell through.

There has been no further interest in this space.

Potential use as a storage facility for the Council could be considered. The Asset Planning Team have recently estimated £70,000 to remove the structure.

As there is no financial benefit to this then unless the Council need the space for a commercial venture it will keep it mothballed.

Positive financial outlook

The accounts for the Shay Stadium show a projected operating deficit of £214,035 for the financial year 2018-19.

However, if you factor in the cost that the council would otherwise have to pay for office space used by staff at the stadium and to hire rooms for training outside the organisation it comes to £170,000.

If this is taken into account then the overall operating loss is £44,000. It is expected that this can be reduced to zero by the end of financial year 2019-20.

The main sources of income for the Shay Stadium come from the rugby and football clubs and from the catering companies contracted to provide services there.

In addition, income is received from the various organisations that use the Shay Stadium regularly.

The council says it will continue to invest in the stadium to keep it safe.

The Place Scrutiny Board will meet to discuss the plan tonight (Thursday) at Halifax town hall at 6pm.
Highlander wrote:Ok, shot in the dark time, but it's obvious the council needs a partner for the site. You guys might know more but have they actually approached anyone? Logically (i know, this is local government...) with the Piece Hall taking off, there will be demand for more hotel capacity. There's a decent amount of land there, and obviously really close to the centre and train station as well. Could a national hotel chain be persuaded to come in? Offer them the South stand to demolish and build a 3 or 4 storey hotel across the bottom of the ground, incorporating that unfinished segment in the corner. Leaving the ground, 3 stands, a hotel partner anchoring it. Or has this ship sailed in the current climate?

After what we went through, I know far too much now about insolvencies, administrators, the poisoned chalice of rfl "help" so I really feel sorry for you guys. Hope it can get sorted.


Back in 2019 there was this article in the Courier, bit of a read with all the adverts but it answers some of the questions.
https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/p ... ium-983519

Here's the text without the ads.
Hotel potential at The Shay as blueprint is drawn up to develop the stadium
By Ian Hirst
Published 18th Apr 2019, 12:53 BST
Updated 18th Apr 2019, 13:04 BST
The Shay Stadium in Halifax

The future of the Shay Stadium will be put in the spotlight as Calderdale Council leaders discuss how the complex can be developed.
Calderdale Council’s director of public services Zohrah Zancudi has outlined in a report to the Place scrutiny board the potential developments of the stadium.

One of the key aspects is the future of the West Stand after a structural survey revealed a number of issues.

In her report Zohrah Zancudi said: “It is likely that in the next couple of years the stand could be condemned. This would result in a decision being required over whether to close the stand or make significant investment.
“We had looked to work with a hotel building company to provide a hotel at the stadium.

“This was linked to the development of the annex and the progress stopped at this stage. If demand exists for another hotel in Halifax then Corporate Asset and Facilities Management can be requested to look into this with a development company.”

The closure of the West Stand would not affect the provision of games to both professional clubs due to current attendance figures as currently only two of the four stands are used for match days.

The report also showed how vital it was for the council to work with both FC Halifax Town and Halifax RLFC to help with development of the Shay.

“The Shay Stadium is the principal sporting venue in Calderdale and in terms of size and operational capacity it offers great potential for future growth in both sport and event management,” said the Calderdale Council director.

“There remain challenges to realise this potential fully; we need to look at the stadium as a whole and develop a strategy for development.

“The next stage of development could depend on the success of both professional clubs.

“We need to look at how we can support and enable the clubs to be more successful. We need to work closely with both clubs to increase revenue to allow investment.”

One option is potential sponsorship of the stadium.

There is currently no sponsorship agreement for the Shay, with the previous sponsor going into administration. The intention is now for the council to work with the clubs to seek more sponsorship opportunities.

A number of development proposals have been considered in the past to move the stadium onto a more commercial footing including the sale of the annex .

The Council spoke to two potential buyers of the annex but at the latter stages of both negotiations the deals fell through.

There has been no further interest in this space.

Potential use as a storage facility for the Council could be considered. The Asset Planning Team have recently estimated £70,000 to remove the structure.

As there is no financial benefit to this then unless the Council need the space for a commercial venture it will keep it mothballed.

Positive financial outlook

The accounts for the Shay Stadium show a projected operating deficit of £214,035 for the financial year 2018-19.

However, if you factor in the cost that the council would otherwise have to pay for office space used by staff at the stadium and to hire rooms for training outside the organisation it comes to £170,000.

If this is taken into account then the overall operating loss is £44,000. It is expected that this can be reduced to zero by the end of financial year 2019-20.

The main sources of income for the Shay Stadium come from the rugby and football clubs and from the catering companies contracted to provide services there.

In addition, income is received from the various organisations that use the Shay Stadium regularly.

The council says it will continue to invest in the stadium to keep it safe.

The Place Scrutiny Board will meet to discuss the plan tonight (Thursday) at Halifax town hall at 6pm.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:42 pm 
First Team Player
Academy Player

Joined: Jul 13 2020
Posts: 302
The only 2 options for survival imo are total opposites
1. Somehow engineer purchasing the shay. Personally i cant see it happening .

2. Probably the real chance of survival is to get out of theshay and find an alternative home where you could grow with your own earnings from a bar and function area. I can only realistically think of one place and they also play under the name Halifax.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:24 am 
International Chairman
International Star

Joined: Feb 17 2002
Posts: 5613
Location: Halifax
How will owning the shay help?






Loving the hypocrisy of some.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 11:43 am 
International Chairman
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 6619
Location: Halifax, the sleeping giants of Rugby League
Still waiting for Warrington and London in SL, so had a look at some League 1 clubs who have filed their 2023 accounts:

Hunslet - loss of (£45k); net assets of £107k; employees 47

Rochdale - Profit of £25k; net assets of £65k; employees 12

Midlands Hurricanes - Loss of (£188k); net liabilities of (£295k); employees 22






AM I RIGHT? I'M NOT WRONG!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 2:07 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain

Joined: Oct 26 2005
Posts: 3212
Location: Bradford
Tony Fax wrote:Still waiting for Warrington and London in SL, so had a look at some League 1 clubs who have filed their 2023 accounts:

Hunslet - loss of (£45k); net assets of £107k; employees 47

Rochdale - Profit of £25k; net assets of £65k; employees 12

Midlands Hurricanes - Loss of (£188k); net liabilities of (£295k); employees 22 (has a multimillionaire owner)


Accounts don't show it, but Midlands are comfortable. And doing the right things to grow & develop.






Pollsters doing Excellent job - say recent polls.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Accounts
PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:36 pm 
International Star
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Jan 14 2014
Posts: 1103
A bit off topic but about income streams. She have put most SRL on that stupid streaming where you watch live, can’t record or re watch a full match. It’s just c%#p. Yet the last few weekends the BBC have shown live marches. Are Sky selling their rights to the BBC for how much. There are fewer Australian matches being show as well. In fact none over the last few weeks. The sport is dying

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 136 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 ... 14  Next





It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:21 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ckt2487 and 58 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:21 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
13m
Its all gone a bit quiet
Deadcowboys1
24
13m
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
505
18m
Salford
Or thane
28
46m
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
Recent
How many games will we win
jonh
29
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2600
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5687
Recent
Planning for next season
LeytherRob
182
Recent
Salford placed in special measures
asmadasa
95
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
16
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
New Players
Deadcowboys1
144
2m
Its all gone a bit quiet
Deadcowboys1
24
2m
Accounts
Tony Fax
136
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2600
3m
How many games will we win
jonh
29
3m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
24
4m
Salford placed in special measures
asmadasa
95
4m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40749
5m
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
5m
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
jonh
29
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Or thane
28
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
954
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
587
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1322
England's Women Demolish The W..
1148
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1378
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1173
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1431
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1972
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2179
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2421
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1989
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2228
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2698
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2121
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2196
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
St.Helens 1 40 4 36 2
Wigan 1 32 4 28 2
Huddersfield 1 16 8 8 2
Leeds 1 22 16 6 2
Warrington 1 10 16 -6 0
Hull FC 1 0 22 -22 0
 
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
13m
Its all gone a bit quiet
Deadcowboys1
24
13m
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
505
18m
Salford
Or thane
28
46m
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
Recent
How many games will we win
jonh
29
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2600
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5687
Recent
Planning for next season
LeytherRob
182
Recent
Salford placed in special measures
asmadasa
95
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
16
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
New Players
Deadcowboys1
144
2m
Its all gone a bit quiet
Deadcowboys1
24
2m
Accounts
Tony Fax
136
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2600
3m
How many games will we win
jonh
29
3m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
24
4m
Salford placed in special measures
asmadasa
95
4m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40749
5m
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
5m
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
jonh
29
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Or thane
28
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
954
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
587
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1322
England's Women Demolish The W..
1148
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1378
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1173
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1431
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1972
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2179
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2421
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1989
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2228
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2698
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2121
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2196


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.