Mr Dog wrote:The latest published accounts show total debts of just over £600k* as at 30/11/22 *£302.5k due in less than a year, £200k due after more than 1 year and £104k due after more than 5 years
I believe one of the current directors as covered those historic debts possibly via a loan from his own companies profits .
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Mr Dog wrote:The latest published accounts show total debts of just over £600k* as at 30/11/22 *£302.5k due in less than a year, £200k due after more than 1 year and £104k due after more than 5 years
You've double counted the £104k, Mr Dog, as it's included in the £200k (all related to a bank loan), so the total debts are £500k. No idea what the £128k trade creditors could be. Rent to the Council?
I notice the early bird season ticket offer has been extended a couple of weeks. Let's hope it's because Fax will announce a couple of blockbuster signings after the Championship season has finished in order to to sell more tickets.
One thing Grix admitted in his last interview is that they were late to market meaning they got recruitment wrong , I can’t see us announcing anyone yet as some players will still be playing for their current clubs in the playoffs, ie Brandon Douglas.
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 6509 Location: Halifax, the sleeping giants of Rugby League
The extension to 14th October means there is a full week after the Championship Play Off Final to announce any signings.
I also notice Huddersfield Giants selling adult season tickets for £165 which covers 13 home games, averaging less than £13 a game. Whereas Fax costs £255 for a comparable sit down, averaging nearly £20 a game, and even the standing ticket averages nearly £17 a game.
So it's a lot cheaper to attend a SL match. That can't be right, surely?
Tony Fax wrote:The extension to 14th October means there is a full week after the Championship Play Off Final to announce any signings.
I also notice Huddersfield Giants selling adult season tickets for £165 which covers 13 home games, averaging less than £13 a game. Whereas Fax costs £255 for a comparable sit down, averaging nearly £20 a game, and even the standing ticket averages nearly £17 a game.
So it's a lot cheaper to attend a SL match. That can't be right, surely?
Do IMG have a plan. Supposed to be great sports administrators and have currently delivered a TV deal worth less than the last one with a broadcaster they wanted to ditch, nebulous at best criteria to judge clubs by and mass confusion over how next season will pan out. Great job they’ve done so far. Value for money
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 6509 Location: Halifax, the sleeping giants of Rugby League
I wonder if Fax will extend the early bird offer again this week. I haven't renewed mine and know another geezer who's not doing so either. Not proud of it, but I strongly disagree with the price hike, and in the past season ticket holders have been shafted with discounts for certain matches (eg bring a friend for a tenner) which doesn't inspire one to fork out for a season ticket.
We also need more clarity about what's happening with the club. Are the stadium purchase rumours true, what central funding are clubs getting, is the club skint, what are the ambitions.
Slightly off topic, but for me season tickets don't fit with the flexibility people want these days. I haven't bought a season ticket in a few years, purely because I know there will be dates I cannot make. Am sure many feel the same.
New models need looking at. I'd quite happily pay 10 quid a month for a membership that brings half price tickets and a few fring benefits. Would probably work out better return for the club over 12 months, but realise there are cash flow issues with this and it'd take a brave decision to go against the grain. People want value, more than ever, and season tickets don't offer this (within the usual price brackets).
Tony Fax wrote:I wonder if Fax will extend the early bird offer again this week. I haven't renewed mine and know another geezer who's not doing so either. Not proud of it, but I strongly disagree with the price hike, and in the past season ticket holders have been shafted with discounts for certain matches (eg bring a friend for a tenner) which doesn't inspire one to fork out for a season ticket.
We also need more clarity about what's happening with the club. Are the stadium purchase rumours true, what central funding are clubs getting, is the club skint, what are the ambitions.
Just posted in another thread expecting the early bird offer to get extended. I don't normally buy a season ticket anyway as I feel the club does need some cash flow and I would normally attend every game but that has not been the case this season and I attended the least amount of games in probably over 30 years. I will be picking and choosing again next season for the reasons mentioned above in that I simply do not see it as value for money.
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Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 6509 Location: Halifax, the sleeping giants of Rugby League
Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Just posted in another thread expecting the early bird offer to get extended. I don't normally buy a season ticket anyway as I feel the club does need some cash flow and I would normally attend every game but that has not been the case this season and I attended the least amount of games in probably over 30 years. I will be picking and choosing again next season for the reasons mentioned above in that I simply do not see it as value for money.
Looks like I'll become a "picker and chooser" myself and be one of the "missing hundreds" at the less attractive games.
As Jaffro points out, the club needs to explore different ways to entice support - the monthly membership, for example, is a good idea. Maybe also categorising matches - Bradford and Wakey being Category A, Whitehaven and (dare I say it!) Swinton being category C, pricing the admission accordingly.
I'm loathe to criticising the BOD because I recognise it's a blumming tough job and they're giving up their time to run the club. But I was very surprised they chose to increase the South Stand from £19 to £22 and East Stand from £22 to £25 and have set such a short early bird deadline. They'll obviously point to rising costs, but surely they must see in this cost of living period where folk are being careful there'd be a more than equivalent short fall in attendance? I'm guessing our average attendance last season was approx 1,800 (I stand to be corrected) and now we'll be looking at 1,600.
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