Post subject: Re: Siddal/Fax double header GO GO GO!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:03 pm
littlerich
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Joined: Aug 18 2002 Posts: 18789 Location: 'Fax fan in Stockport: The jewel in the ring of Manchester
Bubba - it doesn't make economic sense. It's their stadium - they are losing out. Forgive the public for trying to point it out. Your deference to the council sums up the problems we face with local government today. Organisations like Halifax RFLC are the ones that end up changing things for the better by having the balls to say what is right. Thanks for the £5m CC but you're still a monolithically stupid decision making body. People like Bubba deserve this council - the rest of the sensible people don't.
Post subject: Re: Siddal/Fax double header GO GO GO!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:10 pm
Faxfan20111
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Joined: Jan 28 2011 Posts: 57
littlerich wrote:Bubba - it doesn't make economic sense. It's their stadium - they are losing out. Forgive the public for trying to point it out. Your deference to the council sums up the problems we face with local government today. Organisations like Halifax RFLC are the ones that end up changing things for the better by having the balls to say what is right. Thanks for the £5m CC but you're still a monolithically stupid decision making body. People like Bubba deserve this council - the rest of the sensible people don't.
Post subject: Re: Siddal/Fax double header GO GO GO!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:16 pm
Bubba
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Joined: Feb 17 2002 Posts: 5606 Location: Halifax
littlerich wrote:Bubba - it doesn't make economic sense. It's their stadium - they are losing out. Forgive the public for trying to point it out.
The Fax press release (toys out of pram) are not about the Council losing out. Its about the rugby club not getting their own way and claiming the Council do not support the rugby club. Two entirely different things.
Post subject: Re: Siddal/Fax double header GO GO GO!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:28 pm
spanishbob
Player Coach
Joined: Apr 03 2006 Posts: 2714 Location: The right side of the pennines
Bubba. Read it again, its not about Halifax RLFC getting their own way, its a sensible statement towards a ludicruous decision made by the Council It does point out that they will be financial loosers in the decision, it does point out that Sidall will be financial loosers in the decison and it does point out that Halifax RLFC will be loosers in the decision.
In fact it is a complete Loose - Loose situation. Now I have been to many management seminars and I have never heard this phrase used as a possitive!!!!
Perhaps Calderdale Council "JUST DO NOT GET IT".
I have e-mailed the council to ask the person who made this decision, in the name of Health and Safety, to come out and tell people what safety issues there are around having the two games back to back, after all even together the crowd figure is not likely to be anywhere near if we drew a superleague club at home in the next round (if we beat Castleford Lock Lane, no counting eggs here).
Post subject: Re: Siddal/Fax double header GO GO GO!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:35 pm
HalifaxCRL
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Joined: Sep 30 2010 Posts: 18
tommy wrote:I don't know if you're looking for a bite or whether you are just a bit thick, but let's cut down such a claim.
Firstly, 4 sets of fans. Let's be honest, 95% of spectators in any potential double header will be Fax or Widnes fans. You'll get a few connected to Siddal and CLL that don't support either team and follow Leeds,Cas, Bradford etc. So firstly, it's not 4 sets of fans to be so blunt.
Secondly I don't know if you want to define 'crossing each others paths' but that situation happens up and down the country all day with people leaving one thing before the next lot 'take part'. Are we to presume you're sh*t scared of going to the cinema or getting on buses/trains because it involves 2 sets of people crossing paths?
Finally, what accidents are we talking about here? Will people be more inclined to trip over or fall down a set of stairs because there's "4" sets of supporters in one stadium at the same time?
To round it off, a challenge. If you can name we one accident waiting to happen that is different a) to having just 2 sets of fans in the stadium and b) that is Shay specific and for some reason wouldn't potentially happen at Millenium Magic or Warrington finals day I will send £20 to the FaxBuilder fund straight away....
Post subject: Re: Siddal/Fax double header GO GO GO!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:42 pm
swifty62
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Joined: Apr 19 2009 Posts: 4914 Location: on the outskirts of halifax
Bubba wrote:The Fax press release (toys out of pram) are not about the Council losing out. Its about the rugby club not getting their own way and claiming the Council do not support the rugby club. Two entirely different things.
agree it could have been worded differently, but still a stupid decision.
been around here long time, thought would start posting...........
Post subject: Re: Siddal/Fax double header GO GO GO!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:59 pm
The Lucky Black Cat
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Joined: May 02 2009 Posts: 2077
Bubba wrote:Regardless Siddal should be paying full commercial cost for using the stadium. One of the Siddal chaps argument in the Courier was something along the lines of "How can the Council turn us down when we are in a recession, bla, bla, bla". In other words "they should let us play there and we will happily pay".
I think the press release by Fax is simply embarassing.
If this is the type of support? We are only a year into an East Stand which Calderdale Council decide to allocate funds for to complete when I would guess the majority of the Borough would have probably opposed it. Yet the club are now happy to publicly question the Council's committment?
What is it about Fax and shameful behaviour?
Usual rubbish from yourself. Why is it embarrassing? The Council again show how useless they are and poor at organizing things. The club have said so and maybe it will get the Council thinking. How come its OK to have 3 or 4 games at one venue in Cardiff, Warrington, Headingley having 10s of thousands of people in attendance but not 2 games which are likely to struggle to reach 1500? There is no Health & Safety issue and why cant the Council communicate properly with the clubs before making such decisions based on nonsense?
As for shameful behaviour the soccer lot are way in front! If certain people involved at the Soccer club had done jobs properly and built the upgrades with Quality then the Council would not need to finish things off. The Shameful actions of the Soccer club in deliberately getting kicked out of a cup. The Shameful behaviour of the Soccer fans by claiming Fax do not pay rent etc and spreading slanderous rumours?
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