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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:02 pm 
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Finn out. We’ve only accumulated 4 more wins than Dewsbury all season and that includes beating them! I won’t be spending another £25 this season whilst he’s in charge.

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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:19 pm 
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Finn has to go, first he blamed injuries, now he has a lot of those players back and we are still performing terribly. We simply can't afford to keep him.






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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:33 pm 
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Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:Finn has to go, first he blamed injuries, now he has a lot of those players back and we are still performing terribly. We simply can't afford to keep him.


Catch 22, I doubt they can afford to sack him either. In mitigation it wouldn't matter who was in charge of this team, the majority of the players need getting rid of.







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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:40 pm 
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Changing the coach won't make a blind bit of difference, not to mention we can't afford a mid season change anyway. Also any coaches who may be available are available for a reason.

Not proud to say I didn't go today, but since the hike to 20 quid I'm picking and choosing and that last performance against fev made today an easy decision. But looks like the usual shot in the foot giving 18 points start and playing catch up yet again.

Don't know where this is going. Relegation would obviously be a disaster, I don't know how big (or should I say small) the crowds are down there but we'll be looking at 500 to 600 I guess at the Shay which won't cover the rent. Who on here will continue to watch Fax n League 1?






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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:12 pm 
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First half same as before with the opposition running harder and tackling harder.
Get back into the game and go in front only to give a daft penalty away, they level and then go in front straight away after we gift them field position by kicking out on the full following the penalty conversion.
We look like a team second from bottom for much of every game and who knows where we go from here, if it’s going down I’ll still be going unless we go bust.

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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:30 pm 
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Need the commitment and hard work from the start of each game from now on not just it the second half. Might just have snuck a result if Jouffret had made the line. 100 per cent better than last week. U T F

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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:30 pm 
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Always look forward to batley away but after today will skip this one. Finn needs to hand in a resignation and walk away for the clubs sake.

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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:08 pm 
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Don't blame Finn for all our woes but why keep an obviously injured and totally ineffective Corey Johnson on until almost the end of the game. I have not always been Inmans biggest fan but he immediately speeded everything up and brought some real fire to our attack and defence. Also unfortunately the lack of confidence has filtered through to our 3 key players - JWH was good in defence but in attack he's a shadow of his usual self. Most will expect us to lose again next week, can only hope that the desperation they must be feeling now means they have the courage to really go for it from the start rather than waiting until they've nothing to lose.

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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:54 am 
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As previously mentioned, can only watch, listen and read from several ‘000 miles away, therefore have to try and take a balanced view, obviously something very wrong, cannot always blame the coach, although he has to take his share of the blame for poor results, is it naivety as a coach?, is he asking too much from players who cannot perform to his instructions, as for players I cannot see they won’t really step over the line every week to lose, firstly pride in themselves if not for the shirt and second who would sign them when cut at the end of the season? As mentioned cannot afford to let Finn go, and who is out there to replace him? Confidence must be low, but this is a time when every one of them needs to dig deep and find the desire to bring out that win, play easy game management, complete sets, and for the kickers every blind man and his dog knows it is going to the right centre/winger. If an amateur like myself knows that then the opposition sure as do! Come on guys you know you are better than what you are showing, do it for yourselves and the shirt if not for the coach.






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 Post subject: Re: Halifax v Widnes
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:26 am 
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[quote="the fax in asia"]As previously mentioned, can only watch, listen and read from several ‘000 miles away, therefore have to try and take a balanced view, obviously something very wrong, cannot always blame the coach, although he has to take his share of the blame for poor results, is it naivety as a coach?, is he asking too much from players who cannot perform to his instructions, as for players I cannot see they won’t really step over the line every week to lose, firstly pride in themselves if not for the shirt and second who would sign them when cut at the end of the season? As mentioned cannot afford to let Finn go, and who is out there to replace him? Confidence must be low, but this is a time when every one of them needs to dig deep and find the desire to bring out that win, play easy game management, complete sets, and for the kickers every blind man and his dog knows it is going to the right centre/winger. If an amateur like myself knows that then the opposition sure as do! Come on guys you know you are better than what you are showing, do it for yourselves and the shirt if not for the coach.[/quote

Players.
Apart from any other motivation the players doing it ( or not doing it, giving it everything )for themselves when they step onto the pitch is what I can’t and never will be able to get my head round and it’s noticeable in every game we’ve played the difference is the opposition for long periods want it more than we do.

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As to knowing what we’re going to do and the shapes / pattern of play again it’s pretty obvious to those in the stand and even more so to Opposition coaching team what they are.

Their game plan is simple, dominate and get on top of our pack, keeping the amount of good ball we have to a minimum get near our line and sooner or later we’ll concede.

Our attack whilst it can be dangerous the lack of field position reduces the threat and ends up getting more and more desperate / clueless when we’re chasing the game.

Throw in the regular daft penalty and brain explosion and away you go.

Since we can’t replace the bulk of the team or the coach we are where we are and hoping they can turn it around with maybe another player or 2 who could make a difference but it’s purely hope based thinking.

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