FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Main News Only One Possible Grand Final Winner in 2011



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Only One Possible Grand Final Winner in 2011
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:54 pm 
Administrator
Administrator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 8538
Location: Heart and mind at Headingley, body anywhere else in the world
Image

Play-off and the time when the season really starts.

We've jettisoned the also-rans who couldn't stand the heat of the season and now we are left with the elite eight as we enter a four week feast of rugby which culminates at Old Trafford on the 8th October.

But who will be battling out the final, and who will win the coveted trophy?

I've been looking at the likely outcome of the play-off weekly rounds and the progression to Old Trafford and however I seem to look at it there can be only two teams that will be running out the fireworks in a months time. And sadly for us, those two teams are Warrington and Wigan.

If you look at final league position, Superleague points, game points scored, game points conceeded, average game points scored and conceeded, difference between average game points scored and conceeded, then there is only one winner. That is the team who have demolished all in-front of them to finish top of the pile and in doing so run in close to 1,100 points, averaging just under 40 per game. Warrington Wolves will statistically be this seasons Grand Final Winners.

In all of these statistical comparisons the only games which look in danger of upsetting the final league positions is an outside chance of Hull KR beating the Dragons (KR have scored more points a game on average but also conceeded more), and a slightly lesser chance of their East Yorkshire neighbours Hull FC upsetting the form book when the come to visit Headingley on sunday afternoon (average points score within two and points conceeded within one).

The bookies are rarely wrong, and the one that I use has Warrington as 11/10 favourites and Wigan 11/8 second favourites. They give little hope to any of the others with Saints 8/1, Leeds 16/1, Giants and Catalans both 33/1, FC 66/1 and Hull KR as the outsiders at 100/1. A Wolves v. Warriors final it is then.

Finally I had a look at head-to-head between the sides in each fixture. Even in this everything goes with league positions, although there are a couple of close games between Warrington and Huddersfield (38-35 aggregate this season), and Wigan and Saints (34-28 aggregate). Leeds thrash FC (54-18) and the Catalans beat KR comfortably (59-48). In the second round the Giants easily see off the Rhinos (62-37) and the same for the Saints over the Dragons (64-34).

In the semi-finals we'd have the same outcome as in the first round which would give us a Wolves v. Wigan final. This would go the Wolves way with a 63-18 aggregate, or 85-62 if you take the Challenge Cup encounter into account.

So there we go, no-one really has any statistical chance of winning except Warrington.

It's a good job that our games transcends statistics...I think we are in for a cracking month of rugby!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Only One Possible Grand Final Winner in 2011
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:30 pm 
International Star
New Signing

Joined: Sep 07 2011
Posts: 2
the only one for me is wigan

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Only One Possible Grand Final Winner in 2011
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:51 pm 
International Board Member
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2003
Posts: 9982
Great post!!! I have no idea who will win, but great reading, and here's to a fab play off series!






Newsnight 13th May 2010: "With the role of Deputy Prime Minister a non-job. Has Nick Clegg gone from King Maker to tea maker????"



I kept the faith and I kept voting
Not for the iron fist but for the helping hand
For theirs is a land with a wall around it
And mine is a faith in my fellow man
Theirs is a land of hope and glory
Mine is the green field and the factory floor
Theirs are the skies all dark with bombers
And mine is the peace we knew
Between the wars

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Only One Possible Grand Final Winner in 2011
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:56 pm 
Player Coach
Academy Player
User avatar

Joined: Mar 27 2010
Posts: 381
Location: Living the Dream
And hopefully Saints and Wigan can give all the neutrals a craking final.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Only One Possible Grand Final Winner in 2011
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:11 pm 
Club Coach
Club Coach

Joined: Jul 16 2005
Posts: 15448
Top two predicted to make the final and top team predicted to win? Surely not. You could always look at Warrington's play off record to throw a spanner in the works. Lest we forget how they fared last season!






Frank Zappa wrote:Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.

The_Enforcer wrote:Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Only One Possible Grand Final Winner in 2011
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:08 pm 
International Star
New Signing

Joined: Jul 11 2011
Posts: 80
written off the saints agin!!!

Remind me what happened yesterday?

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 





It is currently Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:09 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 35 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:09 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Season tickets
Wigan Bull
17
Recent
Is Eamon OCarroll off
Wigan Bull
21
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
26s
TV Games - Not Hull
bonaire
3061
32s
Shopping list for 2025
boardwalkemp
5416
41s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62715
41s
2025 Season tickets
Wigan Bull
17
43s
Finn out Murrell in
faxcar
66
53s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2448
54s
Hull FC ladies
B0NES
8
56s
2025 Kits
Rugby Raider
16
1m
Other Championship Clubs
Trojan Horse
377
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40266
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Simply The Best
Zig
1
TODAY
2025 Kits
Rugby Raider
16
TODAY
Is Eamon OCarroll off
Wigan Bull
21
TODAY
A Little Respect
retrosports
1
TODAY
Terrace wear
retrosports
1
TODAY
Jerrys Last Ever Game
dboy
1
TODAY
Radio Leeds
Dr Dreadnoug
8
TODAY
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Jack Burton
3
TODAY
England Test squad
chapylad
5
TODAY
Danny Sculthorpe
PopTart
4
TODAY
2025 Season tickets
Wigan Bull
17
TODAY
The Lobster
BigTime
8
TODAY
WTH Podcast Awards
Wollo-Wollo-
8
TODAY
Wigan Want More
MadDogg
16
TODAY
Hunslet Secure Promotion After Defeating Swinton
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Discussion
Bullseye
16
TODAY
Trinity Into Play Off Final After Battle With York
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Thompson
TonyM19
51
TODAY
Comparison with Wigan 17
Captain Hook
51
TODAY
Crowd Funding
jbuzza
5
TODAY
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
rubber ducki
4
TODAY
Twix wrappers
MidlandsWarr
6
TODAY
Burgess
Phuzzy
46
TODAY
5 hours
NickyKiss
6
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
503
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
830
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
484
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
905
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
1084
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
813
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
915
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1014
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
1350
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
1444
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1910
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
2050
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1744
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
2057
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
2145
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 13th Oct
CH 30 Swinton10-6Hunslet
CH30 Wakefield22-13York
CH 30 Toulouse21-20Bradford
Sat 12th Oct
SL 30 Hull KR2-9Wigan
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Season tickets
Wigan Bull
17
Recent
Is Eamon OCarroll off
Wigan Bull
21
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
26s
TV Games - Not Hull
bonaire
3061
32s
Shopping list for 2025
boardwalkemp
5416
41s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62715
41s
2025 Season tickets
Wigan Bull
17
43s
Finn out Murrell in
faxcar
66
53s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2448
54s
Hull FC ladies
B0NES
8
56s
2025 Kits
Rugby Raider
16
1m
Other Championship Clubs
Trojan Horse
377
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40266
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Simply The Best
Zig
1
TODAY
2025 Kits
Rugby Raider
16
TODAY
Is Eamon OCarroll off
Wigan Bull
21
TODAY
A Little Respect
retrosports
1
TODAY
Terrace wear
retrosports
1
TODAY
Jerrys Last Ever Game
dboy
1
TODAY
Radio Leeds
Dr Dreadnoug
8
TODAY
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Jack Burton
3
TODAY
England Test squad
chapylad
5
TODAY
Danny Sculthorpe
PopTart
4
TODAY
2025 Season tickets
Wigan Bull
17
TODAY
The Lobster
BigTime
8
TODAY
WTH Podcast Awards
Wollo-Wollo-
8
TODAY
Wigan Want More
MadDogg
16
TODAY
Hunslet Secure Promotion After Defeating Swinton
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Discussion
Bullseye
16
TODAY
Trinity Into Play Off Final After Battle With York
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Thompson
TonyM19
51
TODAY
Comparison with Wigan 17
Captain Hook
51
TODAY
Crowd Funding
jbuzza
5
TODAY
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
rubber ducki
4
TODAY
Twix wrappers
MidlandsWarr
6
TODAY
Burgess
Phuzzy
46
TODAY
5 hours
NickyKiss
6
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
503
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
830
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
484
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
905
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
1084
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
813
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
915
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1014
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
1350
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
1444
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1910
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
2050
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1744
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
2057
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
2145


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.