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wrencat1873 wrote:So we have loads of kids effectively locked down in their student digs with covid or isolating.

This one is far from straightforward but, having listened to the woe's of a 17 year old kid at Glasgow Uni, confined to her student digs having tested positive, it sounded extremely tough.
Should the students have been told not to go back and "attend" on line lectures or should they have carried on as though there is nothing going on.

Thankfully my kids are now beyond Uni but, parents must be going through the wringer on this one, especially at, in Scotland, they aren't allowed to go and collect their kids, they have to leave them there to "get through".

Sal Paradise wrote:Come on - these are kids their parents never expected to see until Xmas - if they thought they would see them before they are sad individuals indeed. Having put three kids through Uni I wanted them to embrace the life and forget about life at home - time to gain some independence of thought and life.

If you haven't taught your kid the life skills to live on their own more fool you

wrencat1873 wrote:So it was wholly the right decision to move 2 million kids to their chosen Uni's to study on line (no live lectures at the moment).
Interestingly, any kid wishing to return home from a Scottish Uni would apparently be breaking the law but, strangely, if they live in England (or elsewhere) they can legally return but, are being asked not to.
Said students being told to get covid tests but, having to use public transport to travel X miles for a test, spreading the virus further still.
I think that you may have missed the point :SUBMISSION:

Steph Curry wrote:The title of your thread was “fiasco”

How is it a fiasco? Don’t get me wrong, I know that just like every other thread of yours, it’s a dig at the government, I just want to see how you spin this one

Sal Paradise wrote:Did you go to university? if you did you will know the studying is but one element of university life - the amount of live lectures is minimal. We have devolved administrations in the UK so there will always be difference in application.

There are a tiny proportion of students that have the virus so this panic that they are master spreaders is nonsense - they are no more spreading the virus than the anyone else who uses public transport to get to a test centre

You are right you are missing the point - recorded deaths yesterday were 34 yesterday half of 1% of those testing positive - we need to get some perspective here.

silver2 wrote:I seem to remember that certain individuals on here were critical of the teaching unions when they warned people that what has just happened would happen.

Author:	wrencat1873 [ Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:05 pm ]
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So we have loads of kids effectively locked down in their student digs with covid or isolating. This one is far from straightforward but, having listened to the woe's of a 17 year old kid at Glasgow Uni, confined to her student digs having tested positive, it sounded extremely tough. Should the students have been told not to go back and "attend" on line lectures or should they have carried on as though there is nothing going on. Thankfully my kids are now beyond Uni but, parents must be going through the wringer on this one, especially at, in Scotland, they aren't allowed to go and collect their kids, they have to leave them there to "get through".

Author:	Sal Paradise [ Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:59 pm ]
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wrencat1873 wrote:So we have loads of kids effectively locked down in their student digs with covid or isolating. This one is far from straightforward but, having listened to the woe's of a 17 year old kid at Glasgow Uni, confined to her student digs having tested positive, it sounded extremely tough. Should the students have been told not to go back and "attend" on line lectures or should they have carried on as though there is nothing going on. Thankfully my kids are now beyond Uni but, parents must be going through the wringer on this one, especially at, in Scotland, they aren't allowed to go and collect their kids, they have to leave them there to "get through". Come on - these are kids their parents never expected to see until Xmas - if they thought they would see them before they are sad individuals indeed. Having put three kids through Uni I wanted them to embrace the life and forget about life at home - time to gain some independence of thought and life. If you haven't taught your kid the life skills to live on their own more fool you

Author:	wrencat1873 [ Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:29 pm ]
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Sal Paradise wrote:Come on - these are kids their parents never expected to see until Xmas - if they thought they would see them before they are sad individuals indeed. Having put three kids through Uni I wanted them to embrace the life and forget about life at home - time to gain some independence of thought and life. If you haven't taught your kid the life skills to live on their own more fool you So it was wholly the right decision to move 2 million kids to their chosen Uni's to study on line (no live lectures at the moment). Interestingly, any kid wishing to return home from a Scottish Uni would apparently be breaking the law but, strangely, if they live in England (or elsewhere) they can legally return but, are being asked not to. Said students being told to get covid tests but, having to use public transport to travel X miles for a test, spreading the virus further still. I think that you may have missed the point

Author:	Steph Curry [ Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:30 pm ]
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wrencat1873 wrote:So we have loads of kids effectively locked down in their student digs with covid or isolating. This one is far from straightforward but, having listened to the woe's of a 17 year old kid at Glasgow Uni, confined to her student digs having tested positive, it sounded extremely tough. Should the students have been told not to go back and "attend" on line lectures or should they have carried on as though there is nothing going on. Thankfully my kids are now beyond Uni but, parents must be going through the wringer on this one, especially at, in Scotland, they aren't allowed to go and collect their kids, they have to leave them there to "get through". The title of your thread was “fiasco” How is it a fiasco? Don’t get me wrong, I know that just like every other thread of yours, it’s a dig at the government, I just want to see how you spin this one

Author:	Sal Paradise [ Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:07 am ]
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wrencat1873 wrote:So it was wholly the right decision to move 2 million kids to their chosen Uni's to study on line (no live lectures at the moment). Interestingly, any kid wishing to return home from a Scottish Uni would apparently be breaking the law but, strangely, if they live in England (or elsewhere) they can legally return but, are being asked not to. Said students being told to get covid tests but, having to use public transport to travel X miles for a test, spreading the virus further still. I think that you may have missed the point Did you go to university? if you did you will know the studying is but one element of university life - the amount of live lectures is minimal. We have devolved administrations in the UK so there will always be difference in application. There are a tiny proportion of students that have the virus so this panic that they are master spreaders is nonsense - they are no more spreading the virus than the anyone else who uses public transport to get to a test centre You are right you are missing the point - recorded deaths yesterday were 34 yesterday half of 1% of those testing positive - we need to get some perspective here.

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Author:	wrencat1873 [ Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:25 am ]
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Steph Curry wrote:The title of your thread was “fiasco” How is it a fiasco? Don’t get me wrong, I know that just like every other thread of yours, it’s a dig at the government, I just want to see how you spin this one Let's see how it plays out but, there could have been a delay to the physical return to Uni, perhaps starting the year with on line lectures and then either delaying the return or staggering the return. Let's face it, the usual "freshers" stuff has had to be massively scaled down.

Author:	wrencat1873 [ Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:34 am ]
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Sal Paradise wrote:Did you go to university? if you did you will know the studying is but one element of university life - the amount of live lectures is minimal. We have devolved administrations in the UK so there will always be difference in application. There are a tiny proportion of students that have the virus so this panic that they are master spreaders is nonsense - they are no more spreading the virus than the anyone else who uses public transport to get to a test centre You are right you are missing the point - recorded deaths yesterday were 34 yesterday half of 1% of those testing positive - we need to get some perspective here. Wrong again. Young adults are THE group most responsible for spreading the virus, although thankfully the vast majority of them seem to get only a mild version of the virus. Of course there is a lot more to life at Uni than the actual studies and the students get far more from the non academic side of things than the actual degree. Again, the point about students travelling on public transport to get a test is that they dont generally have a choice, their family members are usually too far away to help with this, although this isn't always the case. Having said that, its crazy to be on public transport if you have Covid, regardless of whether you are a student, pensioner or whoever and I would suggest that this situation needs addressing, quickly. If any person risks infecting the other people on P.T. they would be better off not having to use it ??

Author:	silver2 [ Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:37 am ]
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I seem to remember that certain individuals on here were critical of the teaching unions when they warned people that what has just happened would happen.

Author:	wrencat1873 [ Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:05 am ]
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silver2 wrote:I seem to remember that certain individuals on here were critical of the teaching unions when they warned people that what has just happened would happen. Indeed. Some seem to have no grasp of just how a virus spreads. Just because children and young adults aren't keeling over as a result of coming into contact doesn't mean that the rest of the population wont catch the thing themselves. The whole situation is turning to farce. How can people no longer be able to see their own family members but can now drop their kids with other families for formal and informal childcare. There was an interesting interview on Look North with the Leader of Leeds council, who struggled to answer half of the questions put to her, that were sent in by members of the public.

Author:	Dally [ Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:49 pm ]
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Steph Curry wrote:The title of your thread was “fiasco” How is it a fiasco? Don’t get me wrong, I know that just like every other thread of yours, it’s a dig at the government, I just want to see how you spin this one Not a fiasco but close to fraud. Deliberately encouraging them back when it was obvious there would be a spike and online teaching. Just to help fund the universities and their research and to give the landlords cash.

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