I know that Leave voters are prone to mad statements, conspiracy theories, and demonstrable nonsense, but let's just clear one thing up: the majority of people in jobs voted Remain - by quite a margin. That's both fulltime and part-time jobs. See attached poll: http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/ho ... d-and-why/

The majority of who don't work voted Leave. That's overwhelmingly retired people.

The "average British Worker", therefore, is a remain supporter who is horrified because the average British pensioner, having benefitted from the full employment, cheap housing, funded welfare state and full pensions of the post-war settlement, has just shafted the "average British worker" with his mortgage and bills, and the average British worker's kids, with their Uni fees zero-hours contracts and impossibly high rents, right up the backside.

This vote has some very clear correlations: the older you are, the more likely you voted Leave less well-educated you are, the more likely you voted Leave. The less economically active you are, the more likely you voted leave. This outcome is the old, the ignorant and the non-working imposing an economic catastrophe on the young, the working and the educated.

Bloody reality, eh?

I know that Leave voters are prone to mad statements, conspiracy theories, and demonstrable nonsense, but let's just clear one thing up: the majority of people in jobs voted Remain - by quite a margin. That's both fulltime and part-time jobs. See attached poll: http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/ho ... d-and-why/

The majority of who don't work voted Leave. That's overwhelmingly retired people.

The "average British Worker", therefore, is a remain supporter who is horrified because the average British pensioner, having benefitted from the full employment, cheap housing, funded welfare state and full pensions of the post-war settlement, has just shafted the "average British worker" with his mortgage and bills, and the average British worker's kids, with their Uni fees zero-hours contracts and impossibly high rents, right up the backside.

This vote has some very clear correlations: the older you are, the more likely you voted Leave less well-educated you are, the more likely you voted Leave. The less economically active you are, the more likely you voted leave. This outcome is the old, the ignorant and the non-working imposing an economic catastrophe on the young, the working and the educated.

Bloody reality, eh?

Perhaps I should have said the "average LOW PAID worker" voted leave. Study's have shown that the lower paid lose out under free movement of Labour - "UK studies find that immigration has small impact on average wages but more significant impacts along the wage distribution: low-waged workers lose while medium and high-paid workers gain" http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u ... mmigration

So if the majority of workers voted to stay as you claim we can assume it was the medium/high paid workers who selfishly wanted to maintain the status quo, whilst the majority of low paid workers who's wages are adversely affected by the free movement of Labour wanted out. Just looking at the map of the U.K clearly shows all Labour's traditional heartlands, bar inner London and Scotland (who appear to have defected en masse to the SNP), wanted to leave.

As for the young being all for the E.U, l'm pretty sure their sentiment would change if they lived in Greece and saw first hand how the young are being royally screwed over by the E.U and their bankster allies. 50% youth unemployment and being asset stripped while the E.U refuses to let them declare bankruptcy.

The E.U is a neo-liberal super state that uses free movement of labour to drive down wages. Labour will never be relevant again until they acknowledge this fact.

Perhaps I should have said the "average LOW PAID worker" voted leave. Study's have shown that the lower paid lose out under free movement of Labour - "UK studies find that immigration has small impact on average wages but more significant impacts along the wage distribution: low-waged workers lose while medium and high-paid workers gain" http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u ... mmigration

So if the majority of workers voted to stay as you claim we can assume it was the medium/high paid workers who selfishly wanted to maintain the status quo, whilst the majority of low paid workers who's wages are adversely affected by the free movement of Labour wanted out. Just looking at the map of the U.K clearly shows all Labour's traditional heartlands, bar inner London and Scotland (who appear to have defected en masse to the SNP), wanted to leave.

As for the young being all for the E.U, l'm pretty sure their sentiment would change if they lived in Greece and saw first hand how the young are being royally screwed over by the E.U and their bankster allies. 50% youth unemployment and being asset stripped while the E.U refuses to let them declare bankruptcy.

The E.U is a neo-liberal super state that uses free movement of labour to drive down wages. Labour will never be relevant again until they acknowledge this fact.

Again, I'm just going to take issue with another growing myth here, which is the "only London and Scotland voted Remain". This is based on a map circulating on social media showing the whole country Blue except London and Scotland. It is, unfortunately, rubbish.

Birmingham was 50-50, essentially. Its suburbs were strongly Leave. Liverpool, Manchester, Norwich, Bristol, Gloucester, Newcastle, Leicester, Leeds, York, Brighton, Exeter, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Cambridge and Oxford all voted Remain. There's a map circulating social media right now which is very misleading as it ups it to regional level, and rubs out the cities. Essentially, the Cities voted Remain. The suburbs, towns and most of the shores voted Leave. There were also large swathes of the SouthEast commuter corridors which were Remain, from mid-Kent across to Gloucestershire and from up to Cambridge down into Hampshire, plus some sizable slices of Cumbria and Yorkshire.

Produce a map of local authority areas, as opposed to regions, and it's a much more complex picture. And I'm going nowhere near Northern Ireland.

I don't disagree that low-pay immigration hurts low-pay British workers. It seems to me that the evidence for that is fairly clear. What I don't understand is why those same low-paid workers thought that the way to solve this problem was to vote for a campaign led by people who are the leading enthusiasts for low-paid immigrant Labour - Gove and Johnson - rather than electing a Labour Government which might enforce a more rigid minimum wage. As ever, the real answer to low pay is legislation and regulation, not futile attempts to keep out immigrants. I say futile for two reasons: firstly because business wants cheap Labour, and so they'll seek to get it no matter what, as long as they can get away with paying below minimum wage; and secondly, because we already have "control" over non-EU immigration, yet we have more non-EU immigrants than EU immigrants. Leaving the EU will do nothing for immigration numbers per se.

What WILL affect immigrant numbers is the recession which we're about to undergo as a result of this decision, the final collapse of manufacturing as companies relocate inside the EU, and the decline of the City and all the jobs supporting it, as Frankfurt slaps a tax on financial transactions outside the EU. This vote has completely screwed our entire economy. You'll have a hint about that from what's happened in the financial news today. So lots and lots more people are going to be unemployed and on very low pay. But hey, at least fewer Poles will come, because their economy will be doing better inside the EU than ours is doing outside it.

Today we've seen the only case of a democracy voting against its economic self-interest that I can find in the whole of history. And I'm an economic historian, so take my word for that.

Again, I'm just going to take issue with another growing myth here, which is the "only London and Scotland voted Remain". This is based on a map circulating on social media showing the whole country Blue except London and Scotland. It is, unfortunately, rubbish.

Birmingham was 50-50, essentially. Its suburbs were strongly Leave. Liverpool, Manchester, Norwich, Bristol, Gloucester, Newcastle, Leicester, Leeds, York, Brighton, Exeter, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Cambridge and Oxford all voted Remain. There's a map circulating social media right now which is very misleading as it ups it to regional level, and rubs out the cities. Essentially, the Cities voted Remain. The suburbs, towns and most of the shores voted Leave. There were also large swathes of the SouthEast commuter corridors which were Remain, from mid-Kent across to Gloucestershire and from up to Cambridge down into Hampshire, plus some sizable slices of Cumbria and Yorkshire.

Produce a map of local authority areas, as opposed to regions, and it's a much more complex picture. And I'm going nowhere near Northern Ireland.

I don't disagree that low-pay immigration hurts low-pay British workers. It seems to me that the evidence for that is fairly clear. What I don't understand is why those same low-paid workers thought that the way to solve this problem was to vote for a campaign led by people who are the leading enthusiasts for low-paid immigrant Labour - Gove and Johnson - rather than electing a Labour Government which might enforce a more rigid minimum wage. As ever, the real answer to low pay is legislation and regulation, not futile attempts to keep out immigrants. I say futile for two reasons: firstly because business wants cheap Labour, and so they'll seek to get it no matter what, as long as they can get away with paying below minimum wage; and secondly, because we already have "control" over non-EU immigration, yet we have more non-EU immigrants than EU immigrants. Leaving the EU will do nothing for immigration numbers per se.

What WILL affect immigrant numbers is the recession which we're about to undergo as a result of this decision, the final collapse of manufacturing as companies relocate inside the EU, and the decline of the City and all the jobs supporting it, as Frankfurt slaps a tax on financial transactions outside the EU. This vote has completely screwed our entire economy. You'll have a hint about that from what's happened in the financial news today. So lots and lots more people are going to be unemployed and on very low pay. But hey, at least fewer Poles will come, because their economy will be doing better inside the EU than ours is doing outside it.

Today we've seen the only case of a democracy voting against its economic self-interest that I can find in the whole of history. And I'm an economic historian, so take my word for that.