What kind of society do we live in, when This can happen in 21st Century Britain?

Given that these nonentities are usually only seen at a press conference apologising for yet another total cockup in their proceedures and promising "lessons will be learnt," the question must be asked, why should any Court accept, without a rigorous investigation, anything they say?

What kind of society do we live in, when This can happen in 21st Century Britain?

Given that these nonentities are usually only seen at a press conference apologising for yet another total cockup in their proceedures and promising "lessons will be learnt," the question must be asked, why should any Court accept, without a rigorous investigation, anything they say?

When I first read of this story (in the torygraph), I too felt a sense of outrage but decided to do a little more background research. If you had done the same instead of swallowing the cock & bull that Christopher Booker is famed for writing, you might have happened upon some rather less emotive and more legally constructed reasoning, like this:

Never let the facts get in the way of a good(?) story

Or Essex County Council statement of facts. Please note the use of the word "facts", a word that has little relevance to The Torygraph, even less to The Dally Wail and virtually zero to Christopher Booker

So, far from social workers "ordering" that the child be ripped from the mother's womb, th decision was made by clinicians, with the best interests of both mother and child in mind.

But please don't let facts get in your way of a good right-wing rant

When I first read of this story (in the torygraph), I too felt a sense of outrage but decided to do a little more background research. If you had done the same instead of swallowing the cock & bull that Christopher Booker is famed for writing, you might have happened upon some rather less emotive and more legally constructed reasoning, like this:

Never let the facts get in the way of a good(?) story

Or Essex County Council statement of facts. Please note the use of the word "facts", a word that has little relevance to The Torygraph, even less to The Dally Wail and virtually zero to Christopher Booker

So, far from social workers "ordering" that the child be ripped from the mother's womb, th decision was made by clinicians, with the best interests of both mother and child in mind.

But please don't let facts get in your way of a good right-wing rant

Is that what they did, then? Just a quick question, do you include Italian society and the Italian courts in this, given that the unfortunate lady concerned applied to the Italian Courts for an order to return the child to Italy in May 2013, but the Italian courts ruled that the child should remain in England?


Why are you seemingly confident that this child would have been just fine, and why are you better placed to judge than the court?

Is that what they did, then? Just a quick question, do you include Italian society and the Italian courts in this, given that the unfortunate lady concerned applied to the Italian Courts for an order to return the child to Italy in May 2013, but the Italian courts ruled that the child should remain in England?


Why are you seemingly confident that this child would have been just fine, and why are you better placed to judge than the court?

Ooh look, the judgement

The final comment would soften even the hardest of hearts:

If in later life P reads this judgment, as she may well do, I hope that she will appreciate that her mother in particular loved her and wished for her to return to live with her and to bring her up. It is not her fault, nor P's that that was not possible and that a predictable home could only be secured by way of adoption. P should know that the mother very much wished to parent her and bring her up and I hope that that is some small comfort both to the mother and also to P.

Ooh look, the judgement

The final comment would soften even the hardest of hearts:

If in later life P reads this judgment, as she may well do, I hope that she will appreciate that her mother in particular loved her and wished for her to return to live with her and to bring her up. It is not her fault, nor P's that that was not possible and that a predictable home could only be secured by way of adoption. P should know that the mother very much wished to parent her and bring her up and I hope that that is some small comfort both to the mother and also to P.

Just as soon as the good Sir James gets to the bottom of this story, which was incidently, picked up by most of the media. A fact which seems to have escaped the notice of the more excitable types on here.

Oh, and I'm not sure that a blog is neccessarily the fount of all knowledge either.......

Just as soon as the good Sir James gets to the bottom of this story, which was incidently, picked up by most of the media. A fact which seems to have escaped the notice of the more excitable types on here.

Oh, and I'm not sure that a blog is neccessarily the fount of all knowledge either.......

Is that it?

Typical of the right-wingers on here: you quote from a known rag and when the errors of that rag are pointed out, you resort to quoting another article from the self-same rag, this time using (very) selective quotes.



A blog from a very respected Family Court barrister

Is that it?

Typical of the right-wingers on here: you quote from a known rag and when the errors of that rag are pointed out, you resort to quoting another article from the self-same rag, this time using (very) selective quotes.



A blog from a very respected Family Court barrister