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Author: | cod'ead [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:11 am ] | ||||
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Author: | JerryChicken [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:22 am ] | ||||
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Author: | Grimmy [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:18 am ] |
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I think immigration eventually helps overcome racism. I was born and raised in Wigan then at 18 moved to Manchester and now (23) Salford. In Wigan it's 96% non-Black minority ethnic, and attitudes seem pretty backwards compared to how they seem to be in Manchester and Salford, even amongst lots of young people. I guess it's much harder to hate black people, muslims etc if you have actually integrated with them from a young age. |
Author: | Peckerwood [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:03 am ] |
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I believe discrimination of this kind is still a large minority. I work at a well-known tourist attraction in the North West, and only a few days ago we had a complaint from a customer because there were too many Asian customers. I think it will take 4-5 generations for this type of mentality to die off, mainly because attitudes to ethnic minorities can be passed down from grandfather to father to son. It'll be a while until stories like this become a thing of the past. |
Author: | Dead Man Walking [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:41 am ] |
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Peckerwood wrote:I believe discrimination of this kind is still a large minority. I work at a well-known tourist attraction in the North West, and only a few days ago we had a complaint from a customer because there were too many Asian customers. I think it will take 4-5 generations for this type of mentality to die off, mainly because attitudes to ethnic minorities can be passed down from grandfather to father to son. It'll be a while until stories like this become a thing of the past. What did you tell this customer who complained to you ? |
Author: | the cal train [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:50 pm ] |
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Peckerwood wrote:I believe discrimination of this kind is still a large minority. I work at a well-known tourist attraction in the North West, and only a few days ago we had a complaint from a customer because there were too many Asian customers. I think it will take 4-5 generations for this type of mentality to die off, mainly because attitudes to ethnic minorities can be passed down from grandfather to father to son. It'll be a while until stories like this become a thing of the past. you're right about that, too many kids too dumb to think for themselves so won't consider the fact their elders might just be talking shiite. |
Author: | cod'ead [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:46 am ] | ||||
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Author: | El Barbudo [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:43 am ] |
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Did anyone see that Stephen Fry programme recently where, amongst other set-ups, an actor played the (convincing) part of a racist waiter in a genuine restaurant, to see how many would object to his behaviour? Although unscientific, it seemed to show that, whilst most people didn't like the racism and would murmur disapproval to each other, not many were prepared to speak up and challenge it immediately. A lesson for us all there. Silent or repressed disapproval is simply not good enough. |
Author: | rumpelstiltskin [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:27 am ] | ||||
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Author: | JerryChicken [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:48 am ] |
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rumpelstiltskin wrote:I'm intrigued by your call for positive discrimination in the job market, re sexuality and gender. Perhaps you could expand your thoughts on how you would judge the merits of a one legged Nigerian lesbian with a limited grasp of the English language, to be a better fit in the workplace, rather than say, an overly flamboyant Anglo Saxon transvestite chappie in the John Inman stylee. Extra points awarded for post op rather than simply a Friday night Freda? And at the second interview, would pictures of the candidate on all fours wearing a gimp mask, and being enthusiastically rogered by large strap on wearing female, possibly trump the NVQ qualifications of a more "normal" applicant? In this bold new world are there any lines in the sand? Would peadophilia or necrophobia simply be considered as an expression of a persons sexuality, and not in anyway an impediment to a full and fruitful career at Codhead PLC? I think you're letting your fantasies get in the way of a simple attitude of inclusive recruiting, sometimes SOME businesses need to just step back and ask themselves some very simple questions as to how their staff at the varying levels of their organisation represent a mix of society, especially organisations who's primary business is to provide a service to that society - its something that (for instance) large retailers usually do very well with their public facing staff, unfortunately its not always reflected in the back office and especially as you climb further up the management tree - its good sometimes to take a reflective view and ask why. |
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