‘It's a little bit harsh to sack somebody because of one little mistake,' father-of-three Barry Jackman said.
Not half!
I have a few points to make:
Why the relentless demand for revenge from the Muslim parents?
If the school served only halal meat, why has a humble dinner lady been sacked? Surely she just serves what is put before her?
Why does a multi-faith school cater for Muslim students above everyone else? If my children were told that they were being served halal food, they, and I, would refuse for such a thing to happen. Whilst Christians are free to eat all foods (Matt 15:11), we are advised by Paul not to eat food sacrificed to idols (1 Corinthians 10:23-33). Therefore we should try and refrain from eating such foods as it could be viewed by onlookers and fellow Christians as some sort of endorsement of the Muslim moon god.
Why does this country tip-toe around Muslims?
Yes, I know it’s the Daily Mail. Nevertheless, beneath the sensationalism lies a very concerning truth.
‘It's a little bit harsh to sack somebody because of one little mistake,' father-of-three Barry Jackman said.
Not half!
I have a few points to make:
Why the relentless demand for revenge from the Muslim parents?
If the school served only halal meat, why has a humble dinner lady been sacked? Surely she just serves what is put before her?
Why does a multi-faith school cater for Muslim students above everyone else? If my children were told that they were being served halal food, they, and I, would refuse for such a thing to happen. Whilst Christians are free to eat all foods (Matt 15:11), we are advised by Paul not to eat food sacrificed to idols (1 Corinthians 10:23-33). Therefore we should try and refrain from eating such foods as it could be viewed by onlookers and fellow Christians as some sort of endorsement of the Muslim moon god.
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Am I aone in thinking that there may be a little more to this than is reported by that rag? On the face of it, any lawyer will have a field day at an industrial tribunal
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‘It's a little bit harsh to sack somebody because of one little mistake,' father-of-three Barry Jackman said.
Not half!
I have a few points to make:
Why the relentless demand for revenge from the Muslim parents?
If the school served only halal meat, why has a humble dinner lady been sacked? Surely she just serves what is put before her?
Why does a multi-faith school cater for Muslim students above everyone else? If my children were told that they were being served halal food, they, and I, would refuse for such a thing to happen. Whilst Christians are free to eat all foods (Matt 15:11), we are advised by Paul not to eat food sacrificed to idols (1 Corinthians 10:23-33). Therefore we should try and refrain from eating such foods as it could be viewed by onlookers and fellow Christians as some sort of endorsement of the Muslim moon god.
Why does this country tip-toe around Muslims?
Well now, where to begin with this over-heated rant.
First of all, it's the Daily Mail and there is insufficient meat (pun intended) on the bones of this story to know just what happened. The "relentless demand for revenge", as you put it, would be just as relentless if halal was served at a Catholic school. This multi-faith school is apparently attended mostly by Muslims, which is probably why there is such a fuss about halal. Halal meat is not "sacrificed to idols", as you put it.
Particularly amusing is your reference to the "Muslim moon god" ... I guess your belief in your own god is a result of rational reasoning?
Islam as a religion is nonsense. As is Christianity.
Either get over it or show some forgiveness(*).
(*) One of the main planks of the Christian doctrine, I understand?
kirkstaller wrote:Yes, I know it’s the Daily Mail. Nevertheless, beneath the sensationalism lies a very concerning truth.
‘It's a little bit harsh to sack somebody because of one little mistake,' father-of-three Barry Jackman said.
Not half!
I have a few points to make:
Why the relentless demand for revenge from the Muslim parents?
If the school served only halal meat, why has a humble dinner lady been sacked? Surely she just serves what is put before her?
Why does a multi-faith school cater for Muslim students above everyone else? If my children were told that they were being served halal food, they, and I, would refuse for such a thing to happen. Whilst Christians are free to eat all foods (Matt 15:11), we are advised by Paul not to eat food sacrificed to idols (1 Corinthians 10:23-33). Therefore we should try and refrain from eating such foods as it could be viewed by onlookers and fellow Christians as some sort of endorsement of the Muslim moon god.
Why does this country tip-toe around Muslims?
Well now, where to begin with this over-heated rant.
First of all, it's the Daily Mail and there is insufficient meat (pun intended) on the bones of this story to know just what happened. The "relentless demand for revenge", as you put it, would be just as relentless if halal was served at a Catholic school. This multi-faith school is apparently attended mostly by Muslims, which is probably why there is such a fuss about halal. Halal meat is not "sacrificed to idols", as you put it.
Particularly amusing is your reference to the "Muslim moon god" ... I guess your belief in your own god is a result of rational reasoning?
Islam as a religion is nonsense. As is Christianity.
Either get over it or show some forgiveness(*).
(*) One of the main planks of the Christian doctrine, I understand?
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El Barbudo wrote:First of all, it's the Daily Mail and there is insufficient meat (pun intended) on the bones of this story to know just what happened.
I agree that more information would be useful.
Quote:The "relentless demand for revenge", as you put it, would be just as relentless if halal was served at a Catholic school.
There have been many examples of halal food being served to non-Muslims. Most of the time this has been done secretly, which is actually something I agree with. A lot of people get het up about labelling, but many born again Christians would actually prefer not to know that food has been blessed in the name of the Islamic God.
Anyway, to answer you point there has been no equivalent outrage, and to my knowledge no one has been sacked.
Quote:This multi-faith school is apparently attended mostly by Muslims, which is probably why there is such a fuss about halal.
Most are Muslims, but not all. It is unfair that others should be forced to consume food which has been sacrificed to a false god.
Quote:Halal meat is not "sacrificed to idols", as you put it.
Yes it is, to the Muslim god.
Before you say that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, no, we don’t. I worship the living, risen Lord Jesus Christ. I take comfort in the triune Godhead of Father, Son and Spirit.
Muslims say that Jesus (Isa) was not God. They don’t believe in the Holy Spirit. They believe in some weird kind of dictator moon god.
Quote:Particularly amusing is your reference to the "Muslim moon god" ... I guess your belief in your own god is a result of rational reasoning?
Silly question, of course I do.
Quote:Islam as a religion is nonsense.
Agreed.
Quote:As is Christianity
Christianity is not a religion, so that’s a non-starter.
Quote:Either get over it or show some forgiveness(*).
Who am I to forgive? I have not been wronged!
Quote:(*) One of the main planks of the Christian doctrine, I understand?
Technically not a matter of doctrine, but a worthwhile endeavour which pleases God.
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Here we go again.
If you don't believe in their god what difference does it make to you if it's Halal? If it's a false god then it doesn't exist and surely your all seeing god would understand that, especially if you weren't aware that it was Halal in the first place?
Unless you were from the Amazonian rain forest and had never heard of any of these gods then you're going straight to Hell, do not pass go, do not collect two hundred queens.
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Mintball wrote:That's no way to talk about your god.
It's not his god, that god changed, Barry the rabbit told him in the garden one afternoon.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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Sandra The Terrorist wrote:It's not his god, that god changed, Barry the rabbit told him in the garden one afternoon.
The funny thing, theologically speaking, is his lack of understanding. If Kirkstaller believes in the idea of the Trinity, then he believes that Jesus and God are one and the same. So claiming that he worships Jesus but not Allah is nonsense, since he also worships God, and the Christian god is one and the same as Yahweh and Allah, the Jewish and Muslim versions of god.
If Kirkstaller doesn't believe in the Trinity, then he (presumably) believes that Jesus is the son of God and, but a separate entity. In which case, it would be an odd form of Christianity if he didn't also worship God the Father as well as the son. And, as before, Jehovah is the same as Yahweh and Allah.
His comments about Jesus make no theological difference to the god he worships – unless he really is on a fringe the like of which I haven't heard of before.
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