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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:36 am 
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Apologies in advance, I am on hold to the local Council and am a bit wound up.

Behind our house there is a "green space", which the kids play football on, they are apologetic when retrieving the ball from the garden and, on the whole, polite, in the way that any 8-16 year ever is.

This morning I went out and the Council have directed their staff to rip out 6 trees and put flower beds in, along with 10 new trees (I watched the old trees get shredded), because of ONE complaint.

How can we "wage a war on obesity" or even consider a sugar tax when we deny the basic amenities required to kick a bloody ball! (Labour council btw, so no part politics on my behalf)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:43 am 
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Standee wrote:Apologies in advance, I am on hold to the local Council and am a bit wound up.

Behind our house there is a "green space", which the kids play football on, they are apologetic when retrieving the ball from the garden and, on the whole, polite, in the way that any 8-16 year ever is.

This morning I went out and the Council have directed their staff to rip out 6 trees and put flower beds in, along with 10 new trees (I watched the old trees get shredded), because of ONE complaint.

How can we "wage a war on obesity" or even consider a sugar tax when we deny the basic amenities required to kick a bloody ball! (Labour council btw, so no part politics on my behalf)


Is it a playgorund or is it a garden?






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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:52 am 
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I can't comment in depth on the situation you're reporting, but it sounds bonkers.

In my bit of Hackney, just down our road, there's a public baths that opened in 1904. It was, in my experience, a good, basic swimming baths. In school holidays, it would organise events for local children – which seemed to have a good take up.

However, in 2000, the baths were closed. As it's a listed building, they haven't been demolished, but continue to just sit there. In 2009, there was some talk of a grant enabling it to be reopened, but it remains boarded up.

In the years since, the council has restored and reopened the London Fields Lido, which had itself been closed for some years. Unfortunately, that facility seems to operate on much more restrictive openings – specific age groups etc – so is nowhere near as easy to plan a visit to. I don't know what it does in holidays.

But since Haggerston Baths can't be demolished, it seems bonkers to me that it should simply be left to rot, with (presumably) basic work done on it to stop it being a danger. It's a facility that should have been kept open.

It's also been said that the local football pitches in the park behind us (floodlit, artificial surfaces) now command so much money to use that they are generally only rented by groups of adults rather than being used by youngsters. Youngsters do use the rest of the park, all year round, but it's yet another facility for more organised sport that has become tied to raking in money.

Now I'm light years from being a fan of Hackney Council, but obviously it is facing funding cuts and is pledging to not shut any libraries, for instance. But some of this seems very short-sighted to me.

Equally, I'd point out that there has been an ongoing policy of selling off school playing fields for 30-odd years that is also, I suggest, part of the general picture.






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 Post subject: Re: Children and Exercise
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:56 am 
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El Barbudo wrote:Is it a playgorund or is it a garden?


It's neither, was a green space with a few trees, no benches or flower beds etc and no benches going in now, just stuff to stop the kids from playing football.

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 Post subject: Re: Children and Exercise
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:05 am 
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Standee wrote:
El Barbudo wrote:Is it a playgorund or is it a garden?


It's neither, was a green space with a few trees, no benches or flower beds etc and no benches going in now, just stuff to stop the kids from playing football.


I used to see such nonsense all the time when I worked in anti-social behaviour enforcement. I could never grasp why people would complain about children playing football (unless they were using the wall of their house as a goal, or something).






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Wasn't it Labour that sold off playing fields for houses ?






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There's a small plot of land near where I live, it's owned by the council is just grass and a few shrubs. Yet they put up signs saying no ball games and concreted part of it to stop lads playing football there. Just barmy. There's another field nearby but it's so full of dog muck you'd not want to play football on it. Other than that there's sod all for kids to do in the neighbourhood. Then they get complained at for either hanging around on street corners or for going home and playing on their xbox.

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Dead Man Walking wrote:Wasn't it Labour that sold off playing fields for houses ?


Labour continued the policy of allowing the sale of playing fields that had been begun by the Conservative administrations under Margaret Thatcher.






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 Post subject: Re: Children and Exercise
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:11 pm 
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Him wrote:There's a small plot of land near where I live, it's owned by the council is just grass and a few shrubs. Yet they put up signs saying no ball games and concreted part of it to stop lads playing football there. Just barmy. There's another field nearby but it's so full of dog muck you'd not want to play football on it. Other than that there's sod all for kids to do in the neighbourhood. Then they get complained at for either hanging around on street corners or for going home and playing on their xbox.


And that was my point, I know the local kids and they know me, one of them fell off his scooter the other day and his friends saw me in the lounge, knocked on the door and I gave him a lift home (with two of his friends in the car also so nothing could be misunderstood), they are good kids, they just need/want somewhere to play, I'd much rather they be out and about than sat playing video games, especially in half term.

I have to be honest, I've been a bit "vigilante" and bought a pair of goal posts from Argos and put them in the area they play in, bolloxs to authority.


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