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Dally wrote:When you hear what has happened in Manchester today, do feel the death penalty should be applied in such extreme cases?
For me absolutely yes.
So before anyone has been tried and convicted, you'd be happy to see the re-introduction of the death penalty for "extreme" cases?
Define extreme - and just saying "like what happened in Manchester yesterday" will not suffice. Was what happened yesterday more "extreme" than the Birmingham or Guildford bombings? If not, there are ten people who would have been wrongly executed.
Capital punishment has buggerall to do with justice, it is all about revenge and is certainly not an indication of a civilised society. Just because some people occasionally act in an uncivilised manner is not an excuse for our legal system to follow suit.
Anyone wanting to see a pro-hanging idiot brought to book, could do worse than search youtube for Ian Hislop and Priti Patel on Question Time
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Dally wrote:When you hear what has happened in Manchester today, do feel the death penalty should be applied in such extreme cases?
For me absolutely yes.
What in your view qualifies as extreme? when we think we know for sure who the culprit was? when a life is ended but not that of a joe public citizen? of just when the daily papers of subscription tell you it is?
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Dally wrote:When you hear what has happened in Manchester today, do feel the death penalty should be applied in such extreme cases?
For me absolutely yes.
Timoth Evans was an "extreme" case at 10 Rillington Place. He was hanged. He didn't commit any of the murders, Reg Christie did. He was hanged too for the same murders. Two men, hanged for the same crime which one committed and one did not.
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Hull White Star wrote:Timoth Evans was an "extreme" case at 10 Rillington Place. He was hanged. He didn't commit any of the murders, Reg Christie did. He was hanged too for the same murders. Two men, hanged for the same crime which one committed and one did not.
Not true, he was tried for the murder of his wife, although he did admit to killing Timothy Evans wife (but not the child).
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rover49 wrote:Not true, he was tried for the murder of his wife, although he did admit to killing Timothy Evans wife (but not the child).
Still doesn't detract from the fact an innocent man was hanged.
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Hull White Star wrote:Still doesn't detract from the fact an innocent man was hanged.
No, it doesn't. I was just pointing out that your post was factually incorrect.
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rover49 wrote:No, it doesn't. I was just pointing out that your post was factually incorrect.
Its been a while since I read the Ludvic Kennedy book
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Hull White Star wrote:Its been a while since I read the Ludvic Kennedy book
I have been corrected 'several' times on here myself.
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I have been corrected 'several' times on here myself.
