Post subject: Re: Breivik sane, must serve a minimum of 10 years
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:05 pm
kirkstaller
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Ferocious Aardvark wrote:Minimum of 10 years? For a sequence of 77 murders plus more maimings?
I know the Swedish max is 21 years (extendable if a danger) but where on earth do you get a minimum of 10 years from?
The 10 years minimum does look a little odd. The Norwegian authroities have more or less admitted that he will serve less that 21 years by imposing a minimum of 10.
The man makes me feel sick.
However, as terrible as the death of 77 young people are, I don't agree with those who wish to see him spend the rest of his life in prison. There has always got to be the possibility of redemption. I'm not saying that he will ever be a model citizen, but if he is truly sorry for what he has done AND he is considered to pose no further risk to society, I don't see what good it does keeping him locked up like an animal.
Post subject: Re: Breivik sane, must serve a minimum of 10 years
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:12 pm
kirkstaller
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John_D wrote:10 years before he's eligible for a parole hearing. It's pretty much unthinkable that he'll get one.
What if he is genuinely remoresful and deemed by the appropriate authorities to pose no further threat to the public? What good does it do anyone keeping him locked up?
Post subject: Re: Breivik sane, must serve a minimum of 10 years
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:17 pm
the cal train
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kirkstaller wrote:What if he is genuinely remoresful and deemed by the appropriate authorities to pose no further threat to the public? What good does it do anyone keeping him locked up?
it does the families of the 77 people he killed a fair bit of good I would imagine.
All men are created equal, some work harder in preseason. -Emmitt Smith
Post subject: Re: Breivik sane, must serve a minimum of 10 years
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:17 pm
Chris28
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kirkstaller wrote:What if he is genuinely remoresful and deemed by the appropriate authorities to pose no further threat to the public? What good does it do anyone keeping him locked up?
Potential for disorder if he's released? I guess a few of the affected families might want to get even
Post subject: Re: Breivik sane, must serve a minimum of 10 years
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:21 pm
John_D
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kirkstaller wrote:What if he is genuinely remoresful and deemed by the appropriate authorities to pose no further threat to the public? What good does it do anyone keeping him locked up?
Can't believe I'm about to type this, but I agree. But from hearing the things he's said, whilst in full control of his faculties while saying them, I'd say there's a slim chance of that. Pretty sure I remember him saying in open court that he'd do the same again.
Post subject: Re: Breivik sane, must serve a minimum of 10 years
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:22 pm
kirkstaller
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the cal train wrote:it does the families of the 77 people he killed a fair bit of good I would imagine.
If the man had truly reformed then to keep him inside is nothing but vindictive. FWIW I don't think he will turn the corner but to keep him inside simply for the sake of the families is not something that a free a liberal society should be doing.
Chris28 wrote:Potential for disorder if he's released? I guess a few of the affected families might want to get even
Do you think he could be released if granted anonymity?
Post subject: Re: Breivik sane, must serve a minimum of 10 years
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:24 pm
kirkstaller
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John_D wrote:Can't believe I'm about to type this, but I agree. But from hearing the things he's said, whilst in full control of his faculties while saying them, I'd say there's a slim chance of that. Pretty sure I remember him saying in open court that he'd do the same again.
It's very unlikely he'll change and he's shown zero regret so far.
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