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Author:  Ferocious Aardvark [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Home Office - migrant workers fiasco
The Government's point-based system for who can stay and who can't has been ruled unlawful, as the idiots never laid the rules before Parliament. Presumably someone forgot, but won't now be able to remember why, but of course it will be no-one's fault.

This means that potentially thousands of decisions reached in the last few years are invalid, and no doubt there will be a flood of cases (to go along with the hundreds queuing up for Court dates already) asking for decisions to be overturned or looked at again, with all the attendant costs - and no doubt in many cases some compo too.

Add to this the announcement that thousands of Home Office workers have voted to go on strike over pay and conditions, and isn't it a refreshing change that at least one sector of the country is being run swimmingly? Who is in charge of it? They should be promoted immediately.
The Government's point-based system for who can stay and who can't has been ruled unlawful, as the idiots never laid the rules before Parliament. Presumably someone forgot, but won't now be able to remember why, but of course it will be no-one's fault.

This means that potentially thousands of decisions reached in the last few years are invalid, and no doubt there will be a flood of cases (to go along with the hundreds queuing up for Court dates already) asking for decisions to be overturned or looked at again, with all the attendant costs - and no doubt in many cases some compo too.

Add to this the announcement that thousands of Home Office workers have voted to go on strike over pay and conditions, and isn't it a refreshing change that at least one sector of the country is being run swimmingly? Who is in charge of it? They should be promoted immediately.
Author:  ExiledWool [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Home Office - migrant workers fiasco
And I'm glad I left that department last September
Author:  Chris28 [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Home Office - migrant workers fiasco
To be honest it smacks of arrogance and/or incompetence (or a mixture) from UKBA/Home Office - they'd done it before and been knocked back by the courts and either didn't think they should look at the rest of the Points Based System or were too imcompetent to do so. And look where it's got us.

The whole system is so labyrinthine that putting it all in the rules was clearly impossible, so they went for the rules/guidance approach, without doing it properly or considering the consequences. The desire to make it all rules based came from years ago and I got a kicking, when there, for telling a senior manager that without a legislative slot it couldn't be done properly. Lo and behold they went ahead with easier, secondary legislation and made a complete Horlicks of it.

By the way, if you fancy a bit of light reading, and want to see how much of a mess they can make of writing rules, try the new "Appendix FM" in the immigration rules on the UKBA website. If you understand it, give me a call :lol:
Author:  rhino phil [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Home Office - migrant workers fiasco
just another facet of the omnishambles
Author:  cod'ead [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Home Office - migrant workers fiasco
From John Reid describing the Home Office as "not fit for purpose", it has got inexorably worse. Splitting it in two was thought a great wheeze but has led to no discernible improvements, all the two departments seem to do is point the finger at each other. It's difficult to think of the last Home Secretary that had even the slightest appearance of competence.
Author:  Him [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Home Office - migrant workers fiasco
cod'ead wrote:From John Reid describing the Home Office as "not fit for purpose", it has got inexorably worse. Splitting it in two was thought a great wheeze but has led to no discernible improvements, all the two departments seem to do is point the finger at each other. It's difficult to think of the last Home Secretary that had even the slightest appearance of competence.

I have a little bit of sympathy for Home Secretary's, I think it's a horrible job to have. Even a perfectly competent Home Secretary will inevitably get a torrent of abuse at some point as they are held responsible for almost everything and anything that goes wrong in the country.

Having said that, you're right in that it's been a while since we've had a decent one! And the current one is bloody awful considering she's only been in the job for 2 years.
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