A good and surprisingly entertaining start.

The Voice is a bit weird but they have found some good singers. And I love Jessie J and Tom Jones so it will do for me, but they seem to have deliberately done the opposite of X Factor etc and NOT put through anyone who is truly crap or unhinged just for entertainment.

Britain's Got Talent is good for David Walliams, who has grown into the role and is bloody funny at times. It would be too annoying for me to watch live, but with fast-forward I found myself watching more than I'd expected I would. The mad German whose gold wing fell off had me nearly wetting mesen. And they had the best singer ever, the fat lad, wow. If you didn't watch it then I kid you not, this guy could be as good as a Pavarotti.

Thought the Voice was ok as an idea, would have preferred to have had a seasoned "rocker" in the final chair, and also not having barriers between the judges when they had their backs to the singers to stop the childish play acting between them was a mistake............problem is for me, where does it go as a series? there could be some good stuff of how those selected work with their mentors, but without the "car-crash" element of X Factor, does it have the legs to survive? much like the one Sky did a couple of years ago that unearthed Emma's imagination, but could only sustain one series.

BGT is what is always is for me, a good return to saturday night entertainment of old, nothing really to get upset or excited about but does entertain, and allow a proportion of talented [agree about the big lad, shame for the lass who had stuck by him] and not so talented to have soem fun.

Had to go out last night so only saw the first three singers on that show, but from switching on expecting to hate it I have to say that it impressed - the interplay between the four judges and the chairs and all the other bollax were just a gimmicks but at the core of the show is the gem of an idea that the contestants have been hand picked as genuine performers and are not your usual rabble of lunatics and self deluded street urchins who normally frequent this sort of "talent" show.

Must catch up with the rest of it later and I actually haven't a clue what the end result is supposed to be (one of those fabled "million pound" recording contracts ?) but if the first twenty minutes were anything to go on then its got a lot of promise.

Britains Got Talent / X Factor / Simon Cowell Promotion Tool TV has just got too tiresome for me now, they don't even get dafter, just the same old thing...

I can dig the fact the contestants on the voice are a cut above you XSpactor lark. But I saw no one last night who I haven't heard better at an open mic night somewhere.

It also came across as very self serving in the way the judges acted. Name dropping, ego massaging boredom. Particularly when two of them are William from the Black Eyed Peas and the guy from the Script, who are the blandest band since I sat in magnolia room in beige trousers listening to the lighthouse family.

Still. I am sure Universal will enjoy the millions of records sold after the BBC have done all their advertising for them.

I'm not a huge BGT fan, but the big opera singer lad was genuinely good. That last note he hit was spine tingling.

And far from the girl holding him back, I thought she complemented him very well.

I got to watch the whole of The Voice last night and have to say I'm impressed, the judges interaction is still a bit staged and mere frippery but the format is good and the fact that the acts don't get on the show unless they can sing very well or have a performance track record is the best feature - there is a place for freak show point-and-laugh "talent" competitions but ITV have that base covered with BGT and X-Factor, The Voice is not that market and it showed immediately - what happens when the judges have their portfolio is uncertain but already its a cut above anything that X Factor has displayed.

Not that it's a proper reflection but any idea what the ratings were? Suspect the Voice may have been higher but not seen anything

Chris28 wrote:Not that it's a proper reflection but any idea what the ratings were? Suspect the Voice may have been higher but not seen anything http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/25/voice-britains-got-talent-ratings Will be interesting to see how it progresses, I don't actually know what happens in The Voice after the judges have made their choices and no surprises await the following week ?

Chris28 wrote:Not that it's a proper reflection but any idea what the ratings were? Suspect the Voice may have been higher but not seen anything http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/25/voice-britains-got-talent-ratings Will be interesting to see how it progresses, I don't actually know what happens in The Voice after the judges have made their choices and no surprises await the following week ?

So, while the beeb keeps on pouring money into shit programming like this, they are slashing away atnews, natural history and other quality programmes. Just so that Jeremy Hunt can say he's frozen the license fee

Britains got talent

I was listening to the radio today and it was concerning 'Yoof' unemployment and they had this muppet on whinging because he could n't get an apprenticeship or even a job in a call centre, it went something along the lines of

'a bin fo abart 200 jobs like and like every time I try like I get like no replies like, I have tried like for painting like and joinery like, but like I can't get like any interviews like, even the like call centres like have nuffin'

At least he didn't say 'innit'

I suppose he could always get 'famous like'