Post subject: Re: Seems like 'we' might start shooting people?
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:16 pm
Sandro II Terrorista
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I haven't even got a gun.
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Post subject: Re: Seems like 'we' might start shooting people?
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:32 pm
Sandro II Terrorista
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Have you got a gun Dally?
Bet you have.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Post subject: Re: Seems like 'we' might start shooting people?
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:27 pm
sally cinnamon
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A few newspapers have run with this, they are obviously trying to get attention from people who will think it is a recommendation that police will open fire on peaceful protestors.
The recommendation here is that when people are burning down businesses that have a residential property attached to them (eg a newsagents/corner shop where the family live above) then due to the likelihood of this trapping people in the property above and having to either jump out of a window or burn to death then the police reserve the right to use lethal force.
Sounds reasonable to me, it's hardly a restraint on human rights to take away peoples rights to set fire to someone's house.
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Post subject: Re: Seems like 'we' might start shooting people?
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:41 pm
Him
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I would imagine the police already have the authority and the right to do such a thing anyway. The problem with it is, as with the idiots suggesting water cannon and rubber bullets would have stopped the riots earlier this year, that a police presence is necessary where these crimes are taking place.
The problem with the police response to the riots wasn't a lack of equipment or wrong tactics. It was a lack of police on the streets.
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