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Author: | ROBINSON [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:15 am ] | ||||
Post subject: | Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock | ||||
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Author: | Mintball [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock |
You'd presumably rather it had gone under, then, with the concomitant job loses etc? |
Author: | ROBINSON [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock |
No of course not. I'd have preferred it to be acquired by either private equity (essentially what Virgin Group is) or it raised money through foreign investment, like Barclays did. That could have been done straight away without the need for the government to turn it into one of their departments. Whatever the rights or wrongs, anyway, this deal has turned out good. According to Virgin, the government will receive £747m immediately, another £50m within months, and a potential £1bn following flotation within five years. And lets face it, we could do with the money. |
Author: | McLaren_Field [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock |
Quote:You'd presumably rather it had gone under, then, with the concomitant job loses etc? It would only have affected pensioners and geordies, non-contributors to the economy as they are they don't count. |
Author: | Chris28 [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock |
ROBINSON wrote:No of course not. I'd have preferred it to be acquired by either private equity (essentially what Virgin Group is) or it raised money through foreign investment, like Barclays did. That could have been done straight away without the need for the government to turn it into one of their departments. Genuine question, as I don't know the answer, but which private and/or foreign investors were looking to invest/take over UK banks at the time? |
Author: | tb [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock |
ROBINSON wrote:No of course not. I'd have preferred it to be acquired by either private equity (essentially what Virgin Group is) or it raised money through foreign investment, like Barclays did. That could have been done straight away without the need for the government to turn it into one of their departments. Whatever the rights or wrongs, anyway, this deal has turned out good. According to Virgin, the government will receive £747m immediately, another £50m within months, and a potential £1bn following flotation within five years. And lets face it, we could do with the money. So around a £700m loss? Yep, a great deal. |
Author: | ROBINSON [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock |
Chris28 wrote:Genuine question, as I don't know the answer, but which private and/or foreign investors were looking to invest/take over UK banks at the time? If you're looking for foreign banks on the acquisition trail, then you only have to look at Santander who've hoovered up pretty much everything over here, including RBS's Williams & Glyns network. Also National Australia Group (owners of Yorkshire and Clydesdale) aren't short of cash either. However investment doesn't have to come in the form of being 'bought out', as I understand it. Barclays raised money through share issues and by restructuring its own book (I believe). As for the investors involved, these are usually private equity houses, such as the Virgin's partners in the Northern Rock deal. My only problem, really, with the whole Northern Rock thing is that Virgin were there at the beginning, and if the government had just thought for one second, they wouldn't have had to nationalise it, as Virgin were already in the frame to buy it. They had the money, the business plan and everything - we know this because they had done most of the legwork in their bid to buy Bradford & Bingley. The government were a bit like a bull in a china shop on this one. |
Author: | ROBINSON [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:35 am ] | ||||
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Author: | Mintball [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock |
McLaren_Field wrote:It would only have affected pensioners and geordies, non-contributors to the economy as they are they don't count. Well indeed. |
Author: | tb [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:50 am ] | ||||
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