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Author: | The Video Ref [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:46 pm ] | ||||
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Author: | Him [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:52 pm ] |
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Really? So those public sector teachers are paid more than private sector teachers? Public sector doctors & nurses are paid more than private sector doctors & nurses? I'm sure they'll be delighted to hear that. As for the tube drivers on boxing day, why shouldn't they demand a high rate of pay for working on a public holiday and such an important one like boxing day. I know I'd demand at least quadruple pay to work on boxing day. |
Author: | The Video Ref [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:58 pm ] |
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Him wrote:Really? So those public sector teachers are paid more than private sector teachers? Public sector doctors & nurses are paid more than private sector doctors & nurses? I'm sure they'll be delighted to hear that. As for the tube drivers on boxing day, why shouldn't they demand a high rate of pay for working on a public holiday and such an important one like boxing day. I know I'd demand at least quadruple pay to work on boxing day. There will always be exceptions to every rule and you have highlighted 2 of them. I would hazard a guess that if private sector teachers and doctors are paid more, this is partly to compensate for the fact they don't have a state pension. |
Author: | cod'ead [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:02 pm ] |
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The Video Ref wrote: Then we have tube drivers, demanding a whopping quadruple pay for working boxing day. That is a whopping £700 for one day work! Is it? Where do your figures come from? They're certainly not in the links you provided. When I worked in a unionsed environment, the norm for Bank Holidays was double time + a day in lieu, have things changed? |
Author: | Him [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:06 pm ] |
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The Video Ref wrote:There will always be exceptions to every rule and you have highlighted 2 of them. I would hazard a guess that if private sector teachers and doctors are paid more, this is partly to compensate for the fact they don't have a state pension. So what if they don't have a state pension? They get a very good final salary pension, or at least the private teachers do anyway which is at least as high as the state would pay, plus they get better wages. Which public sector workers aren't exceptions to the rule? |
Author: | Son of Les [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:07 pm ] |
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I wish I could get more for working boxing day than time and two thirds. Some people don't know they're born. |
Author: | Mintball [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:09 pm ] |
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I'm curious: should ordinary working people simple accept what's thrown at them and be prepared to suffer? It's a fact that the income gap in the UK over the last 30 years has widened. Is this good? Is this acceptable? Do working people have to take something that those at the top don't have to? We're all in this together, right? |
Author: | nottinghamtiger [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Strikes Revisited |
Thing is you have a generalised viewpoint that covers ALL public sector workers, which is misguided. For example, the Teacher's Pension Scheme (TPS) is actually wholly self-funding in it's current format and changes were madein 2007 to ensure sustainability. The fact is the amount paid in by current teachers exceeds that going out to retired teachers and all forecasts maintain that this will continue to be the case indefinately. The trouble will come if young teachers decide they can't afford to pay into the pension, or decide not to in the early years of their career, which may result in the government having to then compensate this loss. The givernment are risking a self-funding scheme actually changing to a scheme that is not self-funding! However, other public sector pensions are not sustainable and need changing, just not all of them. |
Author: | tb [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:18 pm ] | ||||
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Author: | sally cinnamon [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:20 pm ] |
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The Video Ref wrote:What is it with public sector workers at the moment? Their pay and pensions are, generally, far superior to their private sector counterparts If their pay and pensions are far superior to their private sector counterparts then why don't private sector workers just leave and go and take up jobs in the public sector? It's easier than uprooting to Switzerland or wherever. |
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