Yes, you think he'd have moved on to somewhere else to preach wouldn't you? I'm just half way though watching a programme about being in the Moonies, now there is a cult if ever I saw one No doubt Kirkstaller will come back agreeing with me saying his way is the only way.

David Koresh had nothing on Kirkstaller, as I may have said before!

How do you define a "man"?

So Dally is a bigot... and we're slagging off people of religion?

don't worry, you posess none of the traits required.

If I'm reading your post correctly, you seem to be implying that there's some sort of conflict between the two things.

To begin with, I don't think we're slagging off all religious people (not in this thread, anyway), just the ones whose religious beliefs make them want to deny equal rights to people who are different to them. And the ones whose religious beliefs make them think doctors who perform abortions are worse than rapists.

Even if we were slagging off all religious people, I think being intolerant of those who are born a certain way (gay, black, disabled, whatever) is entirely different to being intolerant of those who choose to hold an outlandish belief in the face of all the available evidence. A ridiculous view is a ridiculous view, regardless of whether it's a belief in a supreme being or the belief that Widnes will lift this year's Super League title.

What a pisspoor tactic. What you do is ignore every question, and you hope it will be submerged and your swerve not noticed, or forgotten.

Now, and for the second time, you innocently ask "What questions"?

As if you didn't know.

They are those questions that YOU READ when I posted them, and consciously decided it was best to swerve. Those questions.

And now you have an even more pathetic swerve, you no doubt "can't be be bothered" or "haven't the time" to look back in the thread for them.

You've been rumbled, pal. There is only ONE reason you have not answered and that is the questions defeat you so you choose to pretend they never happened. Well done.


Er, or else god never did intercede in any of the OT fairytales, and the reason we never see god interceding nowadays is not because he's (for reasons you don't explain) changed his rather erratic game plan, but because he doesn't exist. You are quite correct in that he has not intervened since the OT. All you need to get your head around now is that he never did during OT times either, and as Occam would explain why that is.




This is in need of explanation. God doesn't intervene. But in your case, he did, to the extent of a one-to-one chat with JC, which is why you are where you are. You need to explain how that is not "intervention". Or did he decide never to interfere with the rest of humanity, but made a single exception in your case?






Can i just point out to kirkstaller and his apologists and others objecting to one sided name calling that this here is kirkstaller calling tb "CRAZY". Not very Christian, IMHO.


Explain that to me. You are saying that you sought a relationship with JC, and so he popped round? I would suggest that your god or his son personally visiting one of his sinners is the clearest intervention in human affairs there could be. How is personally meeting a deity, and thus knowing, as opposed to believeing, they exist, not intervention?


Until I was in my early teens I had been brainwashed into all this religious bullshit and so was a firm believer. Why did JC pass up on the opportunity of popping round to mine, then, while he had the chance? (Knowing in advance, as he does, that if he did. I would forever be saved, but if he didn't, I was a goner? Not very fair that. Why did he choose to intervene to save your bigoted ass but leave me to rot in hell?


He doesn't nor do I. You can't advance your own argument by quoting your own written materials! The one who needs to revisit it would presumably be the one who claims to have met god personally thereby removing the need to have any faith.

tbf to Kirkstaller, logic has never been a strong suite of the religiously deluded.

or even suit

Or even suit