FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home The Sin Bin Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?



Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 281 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 ... 29  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:04 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: May 25 2002
Posts: 37704
Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Kosh wrote:Odd that it's taken three months to come up with a short CCTV clip that proves nothing either way, don't you think? Even odder that this is apparently the first time Mitchell has seen any CCTV at all. Convenient that it has no sound and fails to cover a crucial part of the confrontation.

I call shenanigans.


Strange that only one clip has a clock running too






The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:33 am 
International Board Member
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jun 19 2002
Posts: 14970
Location: Campaigning for a deep attacking line
The Video Ref wrote:From what I am hearing on the radio / reading in the press, the whole thing was supposed to have been witnessed by a diplomatic protection officer who gave a statement.

It has now transpired that this person was not even at the scene and their statement was a pile of lies. They have been arrested for perverting the course of justice, or something to that effect.

So, if a copper who wasn't even there can claim he was, I don't think it would be too difficult for one who was there to attribute something to Mitchell that was never even said.

Either way, the police's version of events has lost all credibility.

:lol:

No the policeman arrested has not been arrested for perverting the course of justice. He was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office. A very different offence.
The officer arrested made no official complaint to police about the incident and so has not fabricated evidence. He allegedly lied to an MP about the fact he heard was what reported in the police log. And is rumoured to have released the log to the press.

Why do you think an officers conduct, who wasn't present and has had no input into the police handling of the incident or the recording of the log, has any bearing whatsoever on the contents of the police log.

The Tories must be desperate to get Mitchell back, they're really going for this but it's going to backfire because nothing so far has contradicted the police log.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:01 am 
Club Owner
Club Captain

Joined: Feb 29 2004
Posts: 4195
Him wrote::lol:

No the policeman arrested has not been arrested for perverting the course of justice. He was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office. A very different offence.
The officer arrested made no official complaint to police about the incident and so has not fabricated evidence. He allegedly lied to an MP about the fact he heard was what reported in the police log. And is rumoured to have released the log to the press.

Why do you think an officers conduct, who wasn't present and has had no input into the police handling of the incident or the recording of the log, has any bearing whatsoever on the contents of the police log.

The Tories must be desperate to get Mitchell back, they're really going for this but it's going to backfire because nothing so far has contradicted the police log.


The exact offence is irrelevant. The fact is a serving police officer has been arrested. We are being told his claim to have witnessed the incident is being investigated as a lie:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/1 ... ess-claims

Clearly this casts doubt over the credibility of the whole 'case' against Mitchell.

Anyway, keep your lid on. I remember you working yourself into a complete lather over the whole Osborne / train ticket affair. Which turned out to be a complete non-story.
Him wrote::lol:

No the policeman arrested has not been arrested for perverting the course of justice. He was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office. A very different offence.
The officer arrested made no official complaint to police about the incident and so has not fabricated evidence. He allegedly lied to an MP about the fact he heard was what reported in the police log. And is rumoured to have released the log to the press.

Why do you think an officers conduct, who wasn't present and has had no input into the police handling of the incident or the recording of the log, has any bearing whatsoever on the contents of the police log.

The Tories must be desperate to get Mitchell back, they're really going for this but it's going to backfire because nothing so far has contradicted the police log.


The exact offence is irrelevant. The fact is a serving police officer has been arrested. We are being told his claim to have witnessed the incident is being investigated as a lie:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/1 ... ess-claims

Clearly this casts doubt over the credibility of the whole 'case' against Mitchell.

Anyway, keep your lid on. I remember you working yourself into a complete lather over the whole Osborne / train ticket affair. Which turned out to be a complete non-story.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:18 am 
International Board Member
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jun 19 2002
Posts: 14970
Location: Campaigning for a deep attacking line
The Video Ref wrote:The exact offence is irrelevant. The fact is a serving police officer has been arrested. We are being told his claim to have witnessed the incident is being investigated as a lie:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/1 ... ess-claims

Clearly this casts doubt over the credibility of the whole 'case' against Mitchell.

Anyway, keep your lid on. I remember you working yourself into a complete lather over the whole Osborne / train ticket affair. Which turned out to be a complete non-story.

Once again, how does the arrest of an officer who wasn't present and didn't contribute in any way to the police log affect the credibility or validity of the police log?
Which parts of the log are now in doubt and why?

For some reason none of the Tory apologists can answer this question.
The Video Ref wrote:The exact offence is irrelevant. The fact is a serving police officer has been arrested. We are being told his claim to have witnessed the incident is being investigated as a lie:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/1 ... ess-claims

Clearly this casts doubt over the credibility of the whole 'case' against Mitchell.

Anyway, keep your lid on. I remember you working yourself into a complete lather over the whole Osborne / train ticket affair. Which turned out to be a complete non-story.

Once again, how does the arrest of an officer who wasn't present and didn't contribute in any way to the police log affect the credibility or validity of the police log?
Which parts of the log are now in doubt and why?

For some reason none of the Tory apologists can answer this question.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:36 am 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Dec 18 2006
Posts: 40
Him wrote:Once again, how does the arrest of an officer who wasn't present and didn't contribute in any way to the police log affect the credibility or validity of the police log?
Which parts of the log are now in doubt and why?

For some reason none of the Tory apologists can answer this question.


You are quite right. They have him bang to rights.

It's quite normal pretend to be a witness just to make sure. Normal police procedures I suppose.

Well normal if you are a police apologist? I suppose the fabrication of evidence isn't an issue anymore.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:24 pm 
International Board Member
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jun 19 2002
Posts: 14970
Location: Campaigning for a deep attacking line
Vince Noir wrote:You are quite right. They have him bang to rights.

It's quite normal pretend to be a witness just to make sure. Normal police procedures I suppose.

Well normal if you are a police apologist? I suppose the fabrication of evidence isn't an issue anymore.

Is lying to an MP fabrication of evidence?
If the police officer who wasn't there has committed a crime he should be punished.

But I'll ask the question again - which part of the police log has been contradicted by either the police officer being arrested or the CCTV?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:43 pm 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Dec 18 2006
Posts: 40
Police apologist. Bet you think they are innocent of Hillsborough, Orgreave, killing newspaper sellers...

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:56 pm 
Club Owner
Club Owner

Joined: May 24 2006
Posts: 22777
Vince Noir wrote:Police apologist. Bet you think they are innocent of Hillsborough, Orgreave, killing newspaper sellers...

You could have just said,

"it doesnt, I was wrong"

its pretty much the same thing as what you have put.






//www.pngnrlbid.com

bUsTiNyAbALLs wrote:Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.


vastman wrote:My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:09 pm 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Dec 18 2006
Posts: 40
So you don't think it's dodgy? You don't think it's strange that a police officer pretends to of witnessed the events? You don't think it's shakey in the slightest? All above board?

The desire to bag a tory is amazing.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Andrew Mitchell MP - Meltdown ?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:12 pm 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Dec 18 2006
Posts: 40
As for the CCTV showing several bystanders... it shows 1....

So theres one flaw in the log.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 281 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 ... 29  Next





It is currently Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:06 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 270 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:06 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Planning for next season
LeythIg
191
8m
2025 COACH Brad Arthur
Ex-Swarcliff
258
11m
Transfer Talk V5
Exeter Rhino
555
17m
Mike Cooper podcast
Uncle Rico
24
21m
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
233
28m
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
29m
Ground Improvements
vastman
249
45m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63304
47m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40839
48m
Film game
Boss Hog
5919
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
233
2m
2025 Shirt
Zig
28
4m
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
5m
Leeds away first up
PopTart
54
5m
New signings
WelshGiant
13
6m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40839
6m
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
RfE
13
8m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Zoo Zoo Boom
2643
15m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
26
42m
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Uncle Rico
24
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Planning for next season
LeythIg
191
8m
2025 COACH Brad Arthur
Ex-Swarcliff
258
11m
Transfer Talk V5
Exeter Rhino
555
17m
Mike Cooper podcast
Uncle Rico
24
21m
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
233
28m
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
29m
Ground Improvements
vastman
249
45m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63304
47m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40839
48m
Film game
Boss Hog
5919
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
233
2m
2025 Shirt
Zig
28
4m
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
5m
Leeds away first up
PopTart
54
5m
New signings
WelshGiant
13
6m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40839
6m
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
RfE
13
8m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Zoo Zoo Boom
2643
15m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
26
42m
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Uncle Rico
24
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.