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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:40 am 
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Lord Elpers wrote:This may describe your experience of working life but don't put the "vast majority of ordinary workers" into the same helpless pot as yourself.?

:lol:

You really are quite silly, aren't you?






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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:I think referring to a black person as a golliwog is wrong, stupid, offensive and ridiculous. But this was a private conversation where I believe no black people were present.


That makes no difference whatsoever.

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:The notion that the police should be investigating her use of the word and prosecuting her is ridiculous. There are probably 5 million crimes far more serious than this that they have to deal with. They don't have time to dealing with burglaries, robberies and muggings, but hey, the hated Prmie Minister's daughter said "Golliwog" and it's in the papers so let's rush in there and create a crime that we can solve. WTFever.


I never once said it should be a criminal matter.

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:I think the BBC were probably right to fire her over it. I don't know what type of shows she was involved in or whether she did a good job on screen, but anyone caught using language like that is risking their job.


Agreed.

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:Do I think her using the term once gives justification to the tossers who are publicly celebrating Thatcher's death? No. They were going to celebrate anyway, whether Carol Thatcher was the greatest women who ever lived or just an average person with flaws.


'Average' people do not refer to black people as 'golliwogs'.

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:It was a lame justification.


It wasn't justification at all. People have used Thatcher's actions in office as justification for celebrating her death. That her son is a criminal and her daughter is a racist just means they don't really feel compelled to cease celebrating for their benefit.






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Ding Dong The Bells Are Dead.

Well at least for the duration on Wednesday anyway.

Presumably the Met will be wading into the crowds to arrest anyone who as much as farts or sneezes. Be interesting to see if they kettle them all in afterwards as they would football fans.






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Andy Gilder wrote:Ding Dong The Bells Are Dead.

Well at least for the duration on Wednesday anyway.

Presumably the Met will be wading into the crowds to arrest anyone who as much as farts or sneezes. Be interesting to see if they kettle them all in afterwards as they would football fans.


They'll be heavy handed no doubt.






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Andy Gilder wrote:Ding Dong The Bells Are Dead.

Well at least for the duration on Wednesday anyway.

Presumably the Met will be wading into the crowds to arrest anyone who as much as farts or sneezes. Be interesting to see if they kettle them all in afterwards as they would football fans.

There was a Parkinson's sufferer on the BBC this morning who was speaking (inter alia the sort of misunderstandings that Parkinson's people have to endure) about the time the police arrested him because he was on the route of a bike race (Olympics, I think) and was "acting suspiciously".
The "acting suspiciously" was ... get this ... that he was not smiling.






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Sal Paradise wrote:... - you are saving up for a deposit but every year the true value of your pot is being reduced by the difference in the inflation rate and the interest rate. With high inflation you cannot save enough as the object you are saving for is costing 10-20% more each year...

Not so.
Back then, the BoE base rate was set high, so as to be higher than inflation, that's why it hit 17% during Thatcher's time.

At the moment, however, base rate is set very low indeed and is deliberately way below inflation, so the point you were making would be true now.

I fondly remember Geoffrey Howe hiking-up VAT and then a year later as that hike disappeared from the year-on-year stats, pointing at it as a decrease in inflation.
Some would have believed him.

You also asked why salaries should have to go up every year.
I think you've probably answered that one yourself ... without an annual rise, once you take inflation into account, the salary is (in real terms) going down, that's why many people think of a rise commensurate with inflation as their right.
Unfortunately, they are wrong, their contract of employment usually states a number of pounds per year and doesn't mention inflation... but you can see why they think as they do.
Many employers nowadays utilise inflation as a way of reducing the salaries of their lower or average performers, awarding catch-up raises (or better) only to the higher-performing staff.






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I've never asked for a pay rise in my life, mind you I was self employed for 28 years of it, but still, since being an employee again I haven't asked for nor been given a pay rise, nor will I ask for one as I work on the principle that my employer will pay me what they think I'm worth.

Which might explain why I haven't had a pay rise since 2008 and the year before that I had a pay decrease (a big one).

Still, I know where I stand... :lol:






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Thought this article from Sunday's Mail was good and best I've seen in the Press:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... ilure.html
Thought this article from Sunday's Mail was good and best I've seen in the Press:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... ilure.html

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Dead Man Walking wrote:They'll be heavy handed no doubt.



That's right, fancy thinking that a poor innocent footy fan could be violent. Ridiculous !






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Don’t worry everyone !

I see George Galloway; the Champion of the loony left has come to the rescue, complete with a Botox job and a hefty old tan. Didn’t you just love him when he pretended to be a cat on Big Brother !

He's going to call for parliament to be convened during Maggie’s funeral. Of course he's the guy that called Saddam, indefatigable and kissed his ass and I see his mate Bob Crow has just called for another strike, déjà vu of the 70’s.

Given that the prat Blair, he of your lot who took us into two unnecessary wars, broke our economy and let millions of people into the Uk to nick your jobs. I wonder will we have a huge forum post to dance at his funeral given he directly stuck it to you lot.






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