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 Post subject: Re: Migrant watch 2014
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:13 pm 
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Euclid wrote:Mr Spirescu may feel apocryphal, but his meeting with Mr Vaz was reported on and photographed by the Times, who even tracked down his girlfriend at home, before picturing him at work washing cars....as it has been reported in the British media, it must be true...


Yup, he wants to be employed in the building industry, doesn't say what as or what field his experience is in but thats what he's been doing back home, straight after his cup of coffee with Mr Vaz he was going to a car wash that had offered him employment and thence would try and find employment in the building trade, I do hope that Mr Vaz made a note of the address of the car wash so that HMRC could follow up and make sure that the correct tax/NIS was being deducted.

All of which is a very different situation to that which would face any 17 or 18 year old British youth with an inkling to be employed in one of the building trades, for the recognised path into "proper" employment on building sites is to undergo an apprenticeship, training at college, usually full time these days, no time for working in car washes while looking for builders who aren't too fussy about your previous employment experience in their trade, presumably he doesn't do something that needs certification like an electrician, plumber, heating engineer, structural engineer, brickie, joiner etc etc etc.

Again its a different approach and its no good saying to your 17 year old lad "if you want to work in the building trade then get out (on your Tebbit bike) and go find a few weeks work here and there in another part of the country" because that is not any way to organise your life over anything other than a very short period of time.






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 Post subject: Re: Migrant watch 2014
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:22 pm 
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Euclid wrote:Just how is it that Mr Spirescu can find work within 24 hours of arriving here under his own steam, but some British people find it so difficult to find employment?

As mentioned, willing to work for less money or under worse conditions.
Recruitment agencies are, in some cases at least, actively targeting and recruiting migrant workers.
They're often more willing to take very short term or low to no guaranteed hours work because unlike the "British" people they aren't on certain benefits which can be affected and can lead to problems by working irregular hours.
Often more flexible on location and hours as they often don't have kids.
Plus they often only work for short periods say 3/4 months and then go home so, unlike the British people, come off the unemployment figures.

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 Post subject: Re: Migrant watch 2014
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:23 pm 
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Ferocious Aardvark wrote:Dimitar Berbatov? :D


Could an English person not do his job? Or does he have a superior work ethic that nobody in England can match?






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 Post subject: Re: Migrant watch 2014
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:56 pm 
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Think it was in the Mail too.

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 Post subject: Re: Migrant watch 2014
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:03 pm 
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JerryChicken wrote:Yup, he wants to be employed in the building industry, doesn't say what as or what field his experience is in but thats what he's been doing back home, straight after his cup of coffee with Mr Vaz he was going to a car wash that had offered him employment and thence would try and find employment in the building trade, I do hope that Mr Vaz made a note of the address of the car wash so that HMRC could follow up and make sure that the correct tax/NIS was being deducted.

All of which is a very different situation to that which would face any 17 or 18 year old British youth with an inkling to be employed in one of the building trades, for the recognised path into "proper" employment on building sites is to undergo an apprenticeship, training at college, usually full time these days, no time for working in car washes while looking for builders who aren't too fussy about your previous employment experience in their trade, presumably he doesn't do something that needs certification like an electrician, plumber, heating engineer, structural engineer, brickie, joiner etc etc etc.

Again its a different approach and its no good saying to your 17 year old lad "if you want to work in the building trade then get out (on your Tebbit bike) and go find a few weeks work here and there in another part of the country" because that is not any way to organise your life over anything other than a very short period of time.


Given it is now January it is very unlikely that he will earn enough by the end of the tax year to warrant paying any tax?






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Sal Paradise wrote:Given it is now January it is very unlikely that he will earn enough by the end of the tax year to warrant paying any tax?


Given that he's working in a car wash its very unlikely that he'll appear on anyones payroll records anyway, one of the principle requirements of working in a car wash is not wringing out leathers but being the first one over the back wall and off like a hare when HMRC come calling.






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 Post subject: Re: Migrant watch 2014
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JerryChicken wrote:Given that he's working in a car wash its very unlikely that he'll appear on anyones payroll records anyway, one of the principle requirements of working in a car wash is not wringing out leathers but being the first one over the back wall and off like a hare when HMRC come calling.


No that's only the illegals - he will not be one of them.






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 Post subject: Re: Migrant watch 2014
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:11 am 
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Sal Paradise wrote:No that's only the illegals - he will not be one of them.


Have you ever been given a receipt at a hand car wash ?






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 Post subject: Re: Migrant watch 2014
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JerryChicken wrote:Have you ever been given a receipt at a hand car wash ?


We had an account with one at work so yes we used to get proper bills.






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Sal Paradise wrote:We had an account with one at work so yes we used to get proper bills.


You were their "Look guv we got proper accounts an everyting" diversion technique then.






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