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 Post subject: Re: Seems like 'we' might start shooting people?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:21 pm 
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wire quin wrote:Its obviously what the Government advisers think is the way forward otherwise we wouldn't be having this debate.

Are you saying they are wrong and you are right?


If you'd lear to use the quote facility properly, we might know what the hell you are on about






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wire quin wrote:Its obviously what the Government advisers think is the way forward otherwise we wouldn't be having this debate.

Are you saying they are wrong and you are right?


And you agree with every idea from every government because advisors will have been involved at some stage?






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The use of baton rounds is something we have experience of using in the past so therefore you would hope that the decision has been made based upon that. Who knows.

I'm looking forward to watching the news and seeing some chav smashed to the ground having been hit by one.

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wire quin wrote:The use of baton rounds is something we have experience of using in the past so therefore you would hope that the decision has been made based upon that. Who knows.

I'm looking forward to watching the news and seeing some chav smashed to the ground having been hit by one.

Regardless of whether said chav has actually committed a crime?

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wire quin wrote:The use of baton rounds is something we have experience of using in the past so therefore you would hope that the decision has been made based upon that. Who knows.


And because of this experience we know how indiscriminate and inaccurate they are, when you are close enough for them to retain some accuracy they can be a lethal round so you may as well use standard ammunition and just kill people.






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Maybe if the scum weren't rioting burning building's and people's homes down then the subject of Baton rounds wouldn't come into the equation. The police should have used water cannons on them at the very least.






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Him wrote:Regardless of whether said chav has actually committed a crime?



He's still a chav, would it be such a great loss really.






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World of Redboy wrote:Maybe if the scum weren't rioting burning building's and people's homes down then the subject of Baton rounds wouldn't come into the equation. The police should have used water cannons on them at the very least.

What difference would a baton round make to stopping someone burning a building down or rioting?
If the police are close enough to accurately fire baton rounds then they're close enough to arrest the arsonist/rioter.
Plus the debate was about whether use of baton rounds would have been a deterrent to and stopped the "Riots" earlier this year. Considering the vast majority of people on the streets at the time were not doing anything close to rioting or arson it seems a bit daft to restrict the scenarios to only those situations. As mentioned before the Police have authorisation and equipment already to stop those kind of things. Plus no amount of baton rounds or water cannon can stop a crime the police don't know is taking place or make up for a lack of police deployed to the streets.

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I'd love to hear what what some posters would suggest is reasonable force a homeowner could use to stop someone setting fire to their home , containing their family ?






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Starbug wrote:I'd love to hear what what some posters would suggest is reasonable force a homeowner could use to stop someone setting fire to their home , containing their family ?


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