FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home The Sin Bin Brexit Anyone? (2)



Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 985 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82 ... 99  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:37 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 31956
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
I'm not so sure. We buy a lot from the EU because we want and need what they produce. The alternatives aren't as attractive. People will just end up paying more for them.

Hyundai or Chrysler over BMW or Audi?

Chlorine washed chicken over the healthier Euro variety?






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:29 pm 
International Star
First Team Player

Joined: Aug 09 2011
Posts: 1906
Location: Deepest North Yorkshire Woodland
Bullseye wrote:I'm not so sure. We buy a lot from the EU because we want and need what they produce. The alternatives aren't as attractive. People will just end up paying more for them.

Hyundai or Chrysler over BMW or Audi?

Chlorine washed chicken over the healthier Euro variety?

If anything is wrong food wise in the USA the legal boys sue at the drop of a hat. I presume you may have used swimming baths in the UK. Majority use chlorine without any ill effects. Lots of non eu countries can supply us with goods either cheaper or the equivalent price. The French food and wine industry are starting to panic, they estimate if trade deal is not agreed it could cost them millions. Simply because we can buy good wines from Australia, California, Chile, Argentina. Our cheese industry is capable of producing top quality cheese. As for cars, Nissan seem to be good value, as per Hyundai and Toyota. As for food coming into the UK from the eu, remember the horse meat scam in so called mince meat.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:28 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 31956
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
Backwoodsman wrote:If anything is wrong food wise in the USA the legal boys sue at the drop of a hat.


But if the law is changed as it will be post Brexit then no legal boys will sue until harm occurs, probably much later. So is that alright then?

Backwoodsman wrote:I presume you may have used swimming baths in the UK. Majority use chlorine without any ill effects.


I do but I don’t drink the water or eat my fellow swimmers. Too much exposure to chlorine is harmful.

Backwoodsman wrote:The French food and wine industry are starting to panic, they estimate if trade deal is not agreed it could cost them millions.


Evidence?

Backwoodsman wrote: Simply because we can buy good wines from Australia, California, Chile, Argentina.


Always could. If people want French wine they’ll have to pay for it when the price goes up. Most of the cheaper end is from the new world anyway.

Backwoodsman wrote: Our cheese industry is capable of producing top quality cheese.


Undoubtedly but it won’t be the varieties we get from Europe. They’ll go up in price. So we’ll have to pay more if we want them.

Backwoodsman wrote: As for cars, Nissan seem to be good value, as per Hyundai and Toyota.


If any of those are manufactured in the EU we’ll have to pay more for them anyway as they’ll be imported from an EU state. For instance Toyota manufacture many models in France, Czech Republic, Portugal and Poland. Hyundai’s made for Europe are made in Germany, Czech Republic and Turkey. It’ll be interesting to see what Nissan do if we’re outside the customs partnership. They have plants already in France and Spain as well as here. They won’t want to pay more to import parts into the UK to manufacture cars and then pay to export them into the EU unless the government somehow gives them a massive backhander (imagine the fallout if that happened).

From what I can see Brexit will mean that if we import it from the EU it’ll cost us more so people will see their choice in consumer goods restricted.






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:24 pm 
International Chairman
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 27 2002
Posts: 18060
Location: On the road
I would suggest there are very few products that we get from the EU that cannot be sourced elsewhere with the exception of food and wine. If you can afford expensive Bordeaux/Burgundy/Champagne then a small increase in tariff isn't going to stop you.






Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:33 pm 
International Star
First Team Player

Joined: Aug 09 2011
Posts: 1906
Location: Deepest North Yorkshire Woodland
Bullseye wrote:But if the law is changed as it will be post Brexit then no legal boys will sue until harm occurs, probably much later. So is that alright then?

I do but I don’t drink the water or eat my fellow swimmers. Too much exposure to chlorine is harmful.

Evidence?

Always could. If people want French wine they’ll have to pay for it when the price goes up. Most of the cheaper end is from the new world anyway.

Undoubtedly but it won’t be the varieties we get from Europe. They’ll go up in price. So we’ll have to pay more if we want them.

If any of those are manufactured in the EU we’ll have to pay more for them anyway as they’ll be imported from an EU state. For instance Toyota manufacture many models in France, Czech Republic, Portugal and Poland. Hyundai’s made for Europe are made in Germany, Czech Republic and Turkey. It’ll be interesting to see what Nissan do if we’re outside the customs partnership. They have plants already in France and Spain as well as here. They won’t want to pay more to import parts into the UK to manufacture cars and then pay to export them into the EU unless the government somehow gives them a massive backhander (imagine the fallout if that happened).

From what I can see Brexit will mean that if we import it from the EU it’ll cost us more so people will see their choice in consumer goods restricted.

Evidence .
The times ,June 8th spokesman for the Bordeaux wine council Allen Sichel urges politicians to strike a deal to avoid tariffs. Britain is the second largest market for French wines
Cheese, I assume you know how cheese is produced,we have literally hundreds of top quality British cheese makers. Go online and view ,it’s very impressive indeed.
Chlorine, this has been used for years in the USA to kill salmonella in chicken. As of yet no major problems. Crops in this country are sprayed with various substances, some of which have raised safety concerns.
Cars. The market is saturated with different models of cars, the customer is spoiled for choice. Quite obviously Germany exports high volumes of cars to the UK. Can’t see Mercedes, bmw etc etc agreeing to high tariffs on cars.
If the dumbass politicians would step aside and let the leaders of major industry get involved. The situation would be resolved to the benefit of everybody.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:37 pm 
International Star
First Team Player

Joined: Aug 09 2011
Posts: 1906
Location: Deepest North Yorkshire Woodland
Bullseye wrote:But if the law is changed as it will be post Brexit then no legal boys will sue until harm occurs, probably much later. So is that alright then?

I do but I don’t drink the water or eat my fellow swimmers. Too much exposure to chlorine is harmful.

Evidence?

Always could. If people want French wine they’ll have to pay for it when the price goes up. Most of the cheaper end is from the new world anyway.

Undoubtedly but it won’t be the varieties we get from Europe. They’ll go up in price. So we’ll have to pay more if we want them.

If any of those are manufactured in the EU we’ll have to pay more for them anyway as they’ll be imported from an EU state. For instance Toyota manufacture many models in France, Czech Republic, Portugal and Poland. Hyundai’s made for Europe are made in Germany, Czech Republic and Turkey. It’ll be interesting to see what Nissan do if we’re outside the customs partnership. They have plants already in France and Spain as well as here. They won’t want to pay more to import parts into the UK to manufacture cars and then pay to export them into the EU unless the government somehow gives them a massive backhander (imagine the fallout if that happened).

From what I can see Brexit will mean that if we import it from the EU it’ll cost us more so people will see their choice in consumer goods restricted.

Evidence .
The times ,June 8th spokesman for the Bordeaux wine council Allen Sichel urges politicians to strike a deal to avoid tariffs. Britain is the second largest market for French wines
Cheese, I assume you know how cheese is produced,we have literally hundreds of top quality British cheese makers. Go online and view ,it’s very impressive indeed.
Chlorine, this has been used for years in the USA to kill salmonella in chicken. As of yet no major problems. Crops in this country are sprayed with various substances, some of which have raised safety concerns.
Cars. The market is saturated with different models of cars, the customer is spoiled for choice. Quite obviously Germany exports high volumes of cars to the UK. Can’t see Mercedes, bmw etc etc agreeing to high tariffs on cars.
If the dumbass politicians would step aside and let the leaders of major industry get involved. The situation would be resolved to the benefit of everybody.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:44 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 31956
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
Car manufacturers have already said they want to protect the integrity of the single market.

If we want anything made in the EU it'll cost us more after Brexit.






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:26 pm 
International Chairman
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 27 2002
Posts: 18060
Location: On the road
Bullseye wrote:Car manufacturers have already said they want to protect the integrity of the single market.

If we want anything made in the EU it'll cost us more after Brexit.



Of course it will doesn't mean products from everywhere else will though - do we have to continue buying the same amount of product from Europe is it compulsary or can we swap out EU product for similar product from elsewhere?






Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:33 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2006
Posts: 3092
Sal Paradise wrote:Of course it will doesn't mean products from everywhere else will though - do we have to continue buying the same amount of product from Europe is it compulsary or can we swap out EU product for similar product from elsewhere?
Some countries produce the best products in different sectors or have companies which produce the best in different sectors. They are not always interchangeable.

It takes some ideological obsession to decide that the country's best interests are served by trying to import something from further away just because you have some bizarre phobia of the trading partnership we are in with our geographically nearest neighbours. For many products it just isn't possible, certainly not in a short period of time. And even if the base goods are cheaper the landed cost certainly it won't be cheaper until you get a trade arrangement with those other countries (which will take decades to achieve until when you are obliged to WTO rules) and if the higher transit costs don't offset the costs.






"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:55 am 
International Chairman
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 27 2002
Posts: 18060
Location: On the road
The Ghost of '99 wrote:Some countries produce the best products in different sectors or have companies which produce the best in different sectors. They are not always interchangeable.

It takes some ideological obsession to decide that the country's best interests are served by trying to import something from further away just because you have some bizarre phobia of the trading partnership we are in with our geographically nearest neighbours. For many products it just isn't possible, certainly not in a short period of time. And even if the base goods are cheaper the landed cost certainly it won't be cheaper until you get a trade arrangement with those other countries (which will take decades to achieve until when you are obliged to WTO rules) and if the higher transit costs don't offset the costs.


So could you explain why we can import goods from the Far East that are significantly cheaper than we can source in Europe e.g. Steel. All the products that we currently import from outside of the EU will be no more expensive than they are, currency fluctuations considered - would you agree?






Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 985 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82 ... 99  Next





It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:26 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 81 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:26 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Huddersfield
4033
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63242
40s
How many games will we win
Spookisback
31
49s
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
505
1m
Film game
karetaker
5690
1m
Shopping list for 2025
DSJ1983
5585
1m
Salford
karetaker
29
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Huddersfield
4033
2m
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
16
3m
2025 merchandise
BarnsleyGull
17
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Spookisback
31
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
29
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
982
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
610
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1342
England's Women Demolish The W..
1172
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1401
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1196
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1452
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1995
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2200
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2445
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2010
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2250
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2720
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2144
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2217
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Huddersfield
4033
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63242
40s
How many games will we win
Spookisback
31
49s
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
505
1m
Film game
karetaker
5690
1m
Shopping list for 2025
DSJ1983
5585
1m
Salford
karetaker
29
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Huddersfield
4033
2m
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
16
3m
2025 merchandise
BarnsleyGull
17
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Spookisback
31
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
29
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
982
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
610
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1342
England's Women Demolish The W..
1172
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1401
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1196
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1452
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1995
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2200
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2445
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2010
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2250
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2720
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2144
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2217


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.