Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:29 am
wrencat1873
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wire-quin wrote:The eagerness to move on has nothing to do with the above more that we have pressing issues as a country and we seem to be wasting a huge amount of time and effort on a few drinks. It’s holding us back.
Do you really believe what you posted ?
It's been interesting to see that the PM feels that he had to say "thank you" to his staff at the numerous parties / gatherings and yet, never once did he feel that those gatherings were wrong or inappropriate. Which other employers / businesses were still having such gatherings during lockdown.
As their "boss", he should have been unplugging the sound system and telling them to leave the premises and having strong words with those who organised the weekly events.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 11:46 am
wire-quin
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Superblue wrote:So Sue Gray didn’t investigate many of Lyin Boris’s parties because the MET investigation started. And the MET didn’t investigate many of Lyin Boris’s parties because they weren’t in Sue Grays report.
What a classic cover up
Wasn’t Grays report complete when the Met started their investigation hence the delay. What an over promoted damp squib the Gray report turned out to be. How much time and money has been wasted by a journalist driven campaign to get at Boris.
Anyway over to Rishi. Let’s move on and deal with the issues
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 12:46 pm
wire-quin
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:A windfall tax on oil and gas who would of thought of that. I am surprised no one had considered that idea before.
Finally after years, labour put forward a policy (thats been adopted) and didn’t Starmer flog it during PMQs this week. He’s so far of the pace to lead a Government it’s embarrassing. Labour should focus on bringing in a leader who resonates with the population rather than chasing Boris out the door.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 1:28 pm
Mild Rover
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wire-quin wrote:Wasn’t Grays report complete when the Met started their investigation hence the delay. What an over promoted damp squib the Gray report turned out to be. How much time and money has been wasted by a journalist driven campaign to get at Boris.
Anyway over to Rishi. Let’s move on and deal with the issues
It was Johnson that banged on and on about waiting for it to buy time. It says exactly what everybody knew it would say, because what’d happened had been obvious months earlier, from Stratton’s recorded nervous laugh onwards.
He’s a twunt of national negative utility, a cancer on our public life, a global embarrassment, a fraud and an unrepentant, exuberant, probably pathological liar. Given that he is Prime Minister, I think it is good that this as widely known as possible.
The Conservative Party is now the Party of Johnson, they have decided. In a couple of years people will get the chance to decide, everyone knowing what he is, whether we should be the Country of Johnson. The journalists and Sue Gray mean that nobody can be in any doubt about what that choice is and what that decision would entail, so I think whatever has been spent was worth it.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 3:10 pm
wrencat1873
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wire-quin wrote:Finally after years, labour put forward a policy (thats been adopted) and didn’t Starmer flog it during PMQs this week. He’s so far of the pace to lead a Government it’s embarrassing. Labour should focus on bringing in a leader who resonates with the population rather than chasing Boris out the door.
Starmer could be forgiven for being "off the pace" (although I dont agree with your analogy), after all, he's only leader of the opposition. However, your man (Johnson) and his side kick Sunak have waited MONTHS to take meaningful action over the cost of living crisis, MONTHS and even now, their solution is but, as sticking plaster.
What is most increddible is that Johnson said in Parliament that he "accepted full responsibility" for the goings on in No 10 during lockdown. Given that there were 100+ fines (with some "parties" not even investigated), then, surely, he has to resign. By not doing so, he clearly isn't "taking responsibility", unless, of course, he feels that he is above the law and that the illegal gatherings dont matter.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 3:26 pm
wire-quin
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wrencat1873 wrote:Starmer could be forgiven for being "off the pace" (although I dont agree with your analogy), after all, he's only leader of the opposition. However, your man (Johnson) and his side kick Sunak have waited MONTHS to take meaningful action over the cost of living crisis, MONTHS and even now, their solution is but, as sticking plaster.
What is most increddible is that Johnson said in Parliament that he "accepted full responsibility" for the goings on in No 10 during lockdown. Given that there were 100+ fines (with some "parties" not even investigated), then, surely, he has to resign. By not doing so, he clearly isn't "taking responsibility", unless, of course, he feels that he is above the law and that the illegal gatherings dont matter.
Resignation (which is what Labour call for repeatedly) isn’t necessarily the only option although with KS and his two flanking ring walkers you would think it is He said sorry, he isn’t going anywhere so just accept that.
Labour can now claim benefit for the Lib Dems and SNP windfall tax policy.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 3:39 pm
TheWarringtonWolve69
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wrencat1873 wrote:Starmer could be forgiven for being "off the pace" (although I dont agree with your analogy), after all, he's only leader of the opposition. However, your man (Johnson) and his side kick Sunak have waited MONTHS to take meaningful action over the cost of living crisis, MONTHS and even now, their solution is but, as sticking plaster.
To be fair, thats the tories to a Tee. Any crisis takes them months to respond.
If a tory says he is going to do something, he will do it. No need to remind them every 6 months
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 3:46 pm
Superblue
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Two by-election in June, and the parliament standards investigation of Johnson coming up.
Legal action initiated by the good law group against the MET for an incomplete investigation of Johnson’s partying, and to be initiated against the government to have Sue Gray properly complete her investigation into parties she overlooked.
Labour and other parties are only repeating the demand of the voters that Johnson is not fit for office, has repeatedly lied, and must resign. End of.
Covid victims group got millions of votes just waiting the time In our broken democracy it’s only Tory co conspirators can dump him.
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