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The Mustard Tiger wrote:So because a person has never liked a certain band through whatever reason then they are a music snob, wow, you state that "All I go by nowadays is what music sounds like to me. I find the world of music far more interesting as a result.", that is all i have ever done so how is that snobbery?
If that is all you have done, why have your posts contained so much about Cobain being a fake and a phony, his attitudes towards fans, what he may or may not have gotten up to with groupies, and a recommendation for people to do some research? If all you go by is what the music sounds like, why is Cobain's image and behaviour of so much interest to you, and why would anyone need to do any more research than to listen to the songs?
I can understand if someone says they dont like Nirvana's music but to claim they werent very good is just laughable. They may not have been the most technical band but their music captured emotion and the world lapped it up. Compare them to todays one chord indie bands, of which a new one pops up every minute of every day and they are lightyears ahead.
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Ferocious Aardvark wrote::lol:
Yeh I'll do it at the same time as the hearing challenged Rock n roll Hall of Fame panel that inducted Cobain. The world will forever regret that YOU were not there to tell them the TROOF (which is known only to you) and stop that travesty. Although even if you had been, I doubt there'd have been enough time to drag you back out of your own arrse, you're that far up it.
How do you bear the burden of being the only person on the planet who knows the TROOF?
You have lost any credability you may have had by mentioning the Rock n roll Hall of Fame
“All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff.” ― Frank Zappa
Joined: Apr 19 2015 Posts: 434 Location: In the van with my boys
carl_spackler wrote:If that is all you have done, why have your posts contained so much about Cobain being a fake and a phony, his attitudes towards fans, what he may or may not have gotten up to with groupies, and a recommendation for people to do some research? If all you go by is what the music sounds like, why is Cobain's image and behaviour of so much interest to you, and why would anyone need to do any more research than to listen to the songs?
Maybe i have formed my own opinion on him due to the facts that are out there unlike the sheep that believe he is godlike, that is all, thanks
“All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff.” ― Frank Zappa
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The Mustard Tiger wrote:You have lost any credability you may have had by mentioning the Rock n roll Hall of Fame
"Credability"!
My last post as I'm bored with your drivel, is to quote the words of one of my heroes, living legend Michael Stipe, who read the induction speech:
Quote:Good evening. I’m Michael Stipe and I’m here to induct Nirvana into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
When an artists offers an idea, a perspective, it helps us all to see who we are. And it wakes up, and it pushes us forward towards our collective and individual potential. It makes us — each of us — able to see who we are more clearly. It’s progression and progressive movement. It’s the future staring us down in the present and saying, "C'mon, let’s get on with it. Here we are. Now."
I embrace the use of the word "artist" rather than "musician" because the band Nirvana were artists in every sense of the word. It is the highest calling for an artist, as well as the greatest possible privilege to capture a moment, to find the zeitgeist, to expose our struggles, our aspirations, our desires. To embrace and define a period of time. That is my definition of an artist.
Nirvana captured lightning in a bottle. And now, per the dictionary — off the Internet — in defining "lightning in a bottle" as, "Capturing something powerful and elusive, and then being able to hold it and show it to the world."
I do understand that, in your head, even Stipe's words, and more to the point, his decision to make this speech, count for nothing. Indeed I wouldn't be surprised if you think Stipe's a fraud and no-talent charlatan too. I hope you, your head and your capacitous ass have a good and happy life. Goodbye, and thanks so much for the laughs.
Joined: Apr 19 2015 Posts: 434 Location: In the van with my boys
Ferocious Aardvark wrote:"Credability"!
My last post as I'm bored with your drivel, is to quote the words of one of my heroes, living legend Michael Stipe, who read the induction speech:
I do understand that, in your head, even Stipe's words, and more to the point, his decision to make this speech, count for nothing. Indeed I wouldn't be surprised if you think Stipe's a fraud and no-talent charlatan too. I hope you, your head and your capacitous ass have a good and happy life. Goodbye, and thanks so much for the laughs.
Joined: Feb 20 2007 Posts: 10540 Location: Hunting Gopher
The Mustard Tiger wrote:Maybe i have formed my own opinion on him due to the facts that are out there unlike the sheep that believe he is godlike, that is all, thanks
People should form their own opinion, I'm not suggesting otherwise. I simply asked why the image of Cobain was the focus of your criticism if all you go by is the music as you claimed?
You've actually commented very little on the music, focussing largely on Cobain's persona and popularity. You've labelled him a douchebag, a poster boy, a fraud, a fake, and a phony, and criticised him for craving superstardom, praise and adoration (and blowjobs). The only comments about the music were that he was a mediocre musician and very poor guitarist, and that the music was aimed at young teenagers (and I'm not sure how the latter issue is inherently a bad thing, tbh).
So my question was simply; if you only go by what music sounds like to you, why does the rest bother you so much to provoke such venom, and why do you think people should be made aware of such background information to be able to judge his/their music? Couldn't you just not like Nirvana, and other people listen to Nirvana and decide whether or not they do? From what you've written I think it's fairly clear that you don't only go by what the music sounds like.
Joined: Apr 19 2015 Posts: 434 Location: In the van with my boys
carl_spackler wrote:People should form their own opinion, I'm not suggesting otherwise. I simply asked why the image of Cobain was the focus of your criticism if all you go by is the music as you claimed?
You've actually commented very little on the music, focussing largely on Cobain's persona and popularity. You've labelled him a douchebag, a poster boy, a fraud, a fake, and a phony, and criticised him for craving superstardom, praise and adoration (and blowjobs). The only comments about the music were that he was a mediocre musician and very poor guitarist, and that the music was aimed at young teenagers (and I'm not sure how the latter issue is inherently a bad thing, tbh).
So my question was simply; if you only go by what music sounds like to you, why does the rest bother you so much to provoke such venom, and why do you think people should be made aware of such background information to be able to judge his/their music? Couldn't you just not like Nirvana, and other people listen to Nirvana and decide whether or not they do? From what you've written I think it's fairly clear that you don't only go by what the music sounds like.
“All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff.” ― Frank Zappa
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