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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"We need the Conservative Party united behind May to get this deal voted through. There are some signs the ERG are softening but it's nowhere near enough while so many agendas are being pushed.
Thankfully it's unlikely Corbyn would win a GE even now. That's a truly damning reflection of his leadership and his strategy.'"
Leadership?
Strategy?
Does he have either?
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"We need the Conservative Party united behind May to get this deal voted through. There are some signs the ERG are softening but it's nowhere near enough while so many agendas are being pushed.
Thankfully it's unlikely Corbyn would win a GE even now. That's a truly damning reflection of his leadership and his strategy.'"
I agree about Corbyn but, equally, not ALL Tories will unite behind May on this one.
Just like Corbyn, there are factions and politicians in the Tory party that just want a turn in the BIG chair and they are prepared to take a "hit" elsewhere (Brexit) to achieve their aims.
I cant see it happen but, there should be a free vote on a couple of the Brexit options and those MP's in "leave" constituencies should represent their voting public properly or, we could remain in the customs union, delivering a partial Brexit and "keep the band in the nick". 
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"I agree about Corbyn but, equally, not ALL Tories will unite behind May on this one.
Just like Corbyn, there are factions and politicians in the Tory party that just want a turn in the BIG chair and they are prepared to take a "hit" elsewhere (Brexit) to achieve their aims.
I cant see it happen but, there should be a free vote on a couple of the Brexit options and those MP's in "leave" constituencies should represent their voting public properly or, we could remain in the customs union, delivering a partial Brexit and "keep the band in the nick".
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The people had a vote, they voted leave, no other vote is required.
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| Quote MGarbutt1986="MGarbutt1986"The people had a vote, they voted leave, no other vote is required.'"
Do you support the deal Theresa May negotiated with the EU27?
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| Quote MGarbutt1986="MGarbutt1986"The people had a vote, they voted leave, no other vote is required.'"
I was referring to our elected members in Westminster, not the general public.
Personally, I think that a second referendum would make things even worse (unless there was a huge swing - in either direction).
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"Do you support the deal Theresa May negotiated with the EU27?'"
No, I'd prefer no deal.
I wish we had voted to stay, we didn't, it's as simple as that in my eyes.
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| Quote MGarbutt1986="MGarbutt1986"Leadership?
Strategy?
Does he have either?'"
Absolutely not
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| Quote MGarbutt1986="MGarbutt1986"No, I'd prefer no deal.
I wish we had voted to stay, we didn't, it's as simple as that in my eyes.'"
But you can why it isn’t clear cut in terms of type of Brexit, then?
I think I may have misunderstood your initial point though, tbh.
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| Quote MGarbutt1986="MGarbutt1986"No, I'd prefer no deal.'"
Cressida Dick - warns that no deal would make us less safe
Former head of MI5 - warns that no deal significantly reduces our domestic and national security
Airbus - will exit the UK in the event of a no deal
A consortium of food retailers warn that no deal will threaten our food security and raise prices
Various international companies warn of the consequences of no deal and make preparations to exit or scale down
EMA closes, losing 900 very highly skilled jobs and dramatically reducing our influence over pharma and medical science
And yet some people would 'prefer' no deal - it beggars belief; unless you're clinging on to the Michael Gove wisdom, that Britain is "sick of experts?"
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"Cressida Dick - warns that no deal would make us less safe
Former head of MI5 - warns that no deal significantly reduces our domestic and national security
Airbus - will exit the UK in the event of a no deal
A consortium of food retailers warn that no deal will threaten our food security and raise prices
Various international companies warn of the consequences of no deal and make preparations to exit or scale down
EMA closes, losing 900 very highly skilled jobs and dramatically reducing our influence over pharma and medical science
And yet some people would 'prefer' no deal - it beggars belief; unless you're clinging on to the Michael Gove wisdom, that Britain is "sick of experts?"'"
It's astounding that people would advocate putting us in a position where we do not have a trade deal with a single nation. Not sure I recall any leave campaigns advocating WTO defaults as part of their "plan" to "take back control".
If Parliament can agree a deal, then we should leave under those terms. If they can't then there should be a public vote. No deal vs No Brexit.
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| Quote LeythIg="LeythIg"It's astounding that people would advocate putting us in a position where we do not have a trade deal with a single nation. Not sure I recall any leave campaigns advocating WTO defaults as part of their "plan" to "take back control".
If Parliament can agree a deal, then we should leave under those terms. If they can't then there should be a public vote. No deal vs No Brexit.'"
Will you please say another Referendum as that's what your advocating and not follow the politicians line of trying to call it a peoples vote
What you suggest is no different than the vote we had in 2016, basically in or out, seeing as we have had that vote then what's the point.
Both Leave and Remain campaigns said in the build up to the referendum that we not be able to stay in either the customs union or the single market as they are linked to freedom of movement, but the vote was still to leave the EU.
I would be happy to leave the EU with a Deal for course, but we should always have the option of no deal on the table even if we don't want to use it.
So stick that in your pipe and smoke it 
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| Quote POSTL="POSTL"Will you please say another Referendum as that's what your advocating and not follow the politicians line of trying to call it a peoples vote
What you suggest is no different than the vote we had in 2016, basically in or out, seeing as we have had that vote then what's the point.
Both Leave and Remain campaigns said in the build up to the referendum that we not be able to stay in either the customs union or the single market as they are linked to freedom of movement, but the vote was still to leave the EU.
I would be happy to leave the EU with a Deal for course, but we should always have the option of no deal on the table even if we don't want to use it.
So stick that in your pipe and smoke it
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Yes, a second referendum is what I am advocating, IF Parliament cannot agree on a deal. 2016, the question was Leave the EU vs Remain, this would be a Leave the EU with No Deal vs Remain. A slightly different question, asked to a significantly different population.
If the majority are happy to leave under those terms, then so be it. If not, we stay and parties can spell out their plans for our relationship with the EU in their manifesto in the next GE.
What do you think would be the better outcome for the UK right now. No Deal, or No Brexit. And why?
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