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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:05 am 
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ROBINSON wrote:What support do you think the Government should offer?


See above post.






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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:08 am 
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ROBINSON wrote:OK, but why aren't management allowed to make mistakes? As I said, no one has the benefit of a crystal ball...


No. But that's what management at the highest levels of a company are partly paid for – to be able to see what is coming and deal with it. It's not news, in effect, to see the impact of internet shopping on the retail sector in the UK. So what planning did management put in place to deal with that?

Someone (it might have been you) highlighted how other retail outlets have changed things (in terms of concentrating on different tech, for instance). So managements can look at things and have an idea about the way things are going, and they can do something about it.

ROBINSON wrote:And yes, it's to a degree unfair that the workforce have to pay for those mistakes (or an economic downturn, or whatever) with their jobs, but what alternative is there when there is no money to pay for those workers?

It's a simple enough question, and if someone can come up with an answer, then I am all ears.


I didn't suggest there was much of an alternative now. The time for good management seems, in this case, to have passed.






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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:08 am 
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Comet have been crap for about the last 10 years. They will shortly be consigned to history.

Hopefully some parts of the business will be salvaged and some employees can be transferred to the new owner(s).

I really don't see what this has to do with government, other than the usual trick of some people trying to blame the government for everything.


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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:09 am 
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ROBINSON wrote:So, you say this is wrong and that's wrong, but you don't have an alternative?

That's what's wrong with this country. People are too quick to criticise, but won't even attempt to fix the problem in favour of just having a whinge.


You are just a staw man.

The only way she can fix the problem is by voting for politicians she thinks might be able to do that. In the meantime that doesn't disqualify her or anyone else from commenting on the poor situation we find ourselves in or on the latest government screw up whatever it may be. It's not her fault if one week after the next some ideologically driven bit of policy heaps misery on yet another part of the population.

Asking what alternatives she has or what she would do to fix the country is no argument. It just avoids the issues in the same way you attempt to ignore news if its reported in the Guardian. :roll:

If you think the criticism is unjustified say why - not that the criticism itself is wrong. If you can't or won't do that you are just as bad as those you yourself criticise.






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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:15 am 
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The Video Ref wrote:
I really don't see what this has to do with government, other than the usual trick of some people trying to blame the government for everything.


Not one person has said it has, but the usual suspects are claiming we are. Paranoia perhaps :THINK:






A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.

When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life.

Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away.


"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan

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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:15 am 
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Mintball wrote:Oh, but we can all be assured that you do, given that that's the sector you work in.

Oh ...


I've refrained from being personal, but as you're going that way I feel obliged.

You have your own photo as your avatar, which says more about you than words.

You're hardly unbiased, you think anyone with more than you is somehow getting an unfair advantage, you take great pleasure in taking the moral high ground when all you actually do is repeat other peoples words and thoughts. One day you'll post on a thread without linkig to some "worthy left leaning opinion piece"

I worked at Seven Seas a long time ago (about 15 years, as stated previosuly) and the workforce were inflexible and dogmatic (remind you of anyone)

I have never suggested Hull White Star should just retire to a corner and die, I don't wish anyone ill fortune, but I don't simply subscribe to the rhetoric and falsehoods on here that everything the coalition do is bad, some of it has been awful, some of it has been good, the majority has been unfortunate necessity.

Now, go and be a bully with someone who gives a poop what you think Mintball, becuase I, along with many others I suspect, am fed up with reading your jaundiced ramblings, I don't know what has happened to you, but I hope you get over it, and yourself, sometime soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:19 am 
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Standee wrote:
You have your own photo as your avatar, which says more about you than words.




Nowt wrong with that, theres no RL Fans law that says you can't :wink:






A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.

When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life.

Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away.


"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan

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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:19 am 
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Hull White Star wrote:No I don't. I don't run the country, nor am I an economist so why would I know how to fix it. I just know the government should be taking more of an interest than they are now.


What kind of interest would you like them to take?






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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:20 am 
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Hull White Star wrote:See above post.


I did, and it doesnt make any sense. "Do something, anything" isn't really helpful, is it?






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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:24 am 
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ROBINSON wrote:What kind of interest would you like them to take?


Read Dave O's post. He's put if far better than I ever could.






A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.

When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life.

Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away.


"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan

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