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McLaren_Field wrote:So effectively the Christian religion is saying that it has no place for gay people, will make no provision for them in its ceremonies, and will continue to preach against them as being un-Christian ?
I would not be surprised at all by such a viewpoint actually.
As far as the marriage ceremony is concerned it would seem so.
Anakin Skywalker wrote:Some christians no but the actual faith and it's leaders as a rule themselves? Different story.
Obviously, but the fact that some religious people (including ministers) are defending gay couples' right to marriage indicates that there might well be places that gay religious people could find to be married. Which, along with my earlier posts, answers your "what's the point" question.
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Rock God X wrote:Obviously, but the fact that some religious people (including ministers) are defending gay couples' right to marriage indicates that there might well be places that gay religious people could find to be married. Which, along with my earlier posts, answers your "what's the point" question.
Fair enough. Although I later clarified what I actually meant. I should have said 'Why would they want to'.
Anakin Skywalker wrote:Fair enough. Although I later clarified what I actually meant. I should have said 'Why would they want to'.
As I said, I don't understand that any more than I understand why women would want to be part of an organisation that had oppressed them for centuries. I suppose religious gay people are like religious straight people: selective in their reading of holy texts.
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World of Redboy wrote:If the Useless invisible sky faerie created Man and woman as the religous bull$poop says, why did God allow man and woman to be attracted to their own sex. The Saudi's kept telling me Allah gave man free will. Well, from my experience, Allah can't be that bothered about homosexuality in Saudi Arabia either.. When Allah uses a Padeophile to spread his so called word, it says everything.
Well, it's all the same god figure.
And in the Old Testament, that god rates homosexuality so badly that, he actually rewards a man who offers his virgin daughters to be gang raped by a group of local men rather them rape or have consensual sex with some adult males.
That, according to the god of the Old Testament, pimping your daughters to be raped is part of what qualifies you as the one 'good man' in town who is worthy of being saved.
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Mintball wrote:That, according to the god of the Old Testament, pimping your daughters to be raped is part of what qualifies you as the one 'good man' in town who is worthy of being saved.
Though woe betide you if you look back over your shoulder when you're not supposed to.
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Mintball wrote:Well, it's all the same god figure.
And in the Old Testament, that god rates homosexuality so badly that, he actually rewards a man who offers his virgin daughters to be gang raped by a group of local men rather them rape or have consensual sex with some adult males.
That, according to the god of the Old Testament, pimping your daughters to be raped is part of what qualifies you as the one 'good man' in town who is worthy of being saved.
I think though tbf that original, harsh translation has since been corrected, weren't they all in fact just sent for tea and cakes, with a chaperone?
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