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Rock God X wrote: Unless all the information is in his 'off-site' book...
Can you imagine if that book ever makes a reappearance?
He'll have bibliophile's the world over, urgently trying to contact him, offering him wealth beyond his wildest dreams to gain ownership of such a prophetic manuscript.
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What counts as 'morality' has been moving 'shifting' the beginning of time.
Even if one assumes Biblical truth etc, it has been shifting: we no longer, for instance, regard it as a good thing for a man to rape/force into marriage his dead brother's widow.
We no longer, in what we like to imagine is civilised society, believe that a victim of rape be killed. We are appalled at the idea of child sacrifice – unless it's Abraham agreeing to sacrifice Isaac or Jehovah sacrificing his son.
Which, of course, is the odd thing. While in real life we would be horrified at such things, many people still consider them acceptable – indeed essential – parts of their religious beliefs. And that's an almost perfect illustration of the clash between religion and modern, Western, liberal society, that effectively renders a believer in some state of having dual personalities (beliefs).
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Joined: May 10 2002 Posts: 47951 Location: Die Metropole
rover49 wrote:Thought it was fellow priests he was meddling with, not kids. Maybe thats why they got shut, not following centuries old doctrine and going off at a tangent.
Do you think that's what happened in other cases too?
"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller
"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Dally wrote:....The further point I am trying to make is that the law and rule of law has been and continues to be eroded by so many instances of morality shifting to accomodate vociferous minorities (of all types) claiming rights off society as a whole.
Again I ask, which minorities?
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Completely unrelated, but interesting none the less.
Jimmy Saviles top floor "penthouse" apartment in Roundhay Park, Leeds was sold a couple of weeks ago, its always been generally accepted that this was one of the prime apartment locations in the city and of "millionaire" status although having seen it on the Theroux documentary you may be forgiven for thinking that it may have been of "millionaire" status in the 1970s but possibly not now.
Anyhoo, Radio Leeds have been doing the job on the sale trying to find out who bought it and for how much - it was finally knocked down at £250k (a pittance for its location) as it was "in need of some refurbishment", and they found out today who had purchased it - the next door neighbour - and they spoke to them today to find out what their plans were - they are going to demolish the apartment (its a top floor one so they can do that ) and rebuild another in a completely different design to expunge the memory of their neighbour ever having been there
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Rock God X wrote:I'm sure Dally will be along presently to give us some examples of how 'the law and rule of law has been and continues to be eroded by so many instances of morality shifting to accomodate (sic) vociferous minorities (of all types) claiming rights off society as a whole.'...
I'm still waiting to know which vociferous minorities (of all types) he's talking about.
Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice. Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.
El Barbudo wrote:I'm still waiting to know which vociferous minorities (of all types) he's talking about.
Not being one to duck an awkward question (for example by saying the information is in an 'off-site' book), I'm sure it'll only be a matter of minutes before he appears with an answer.
Christianity: because you're so awful you made God kill himself.
WIZEB wrote:Can you imagine if that book ever makes a reappearance?
He'll have bibliophile's the world over, urgently trying to contact him, offering him wealth beyond his wildest dreams to gain ownership of such a prophetic manuscript.
It is truly the holy grail of the written word.
Christianity: because you're so awful you made God kill himself.
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