Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:42 pm
JerryChicken
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Kosh wrote:Correct. Although I still maintain that Blair would never have been elected without the work that Kinnock put in to sort out the party.
I should also add that the Tories were unelectable under Hague, Smith and Howard even though their policies have not changed one jot since '97.
With a mellowing of the years I am coming to like Major though - heard him on a radio program over Easter speaking for an hour on one of his specialist subjects The Edwardian Music Hall featuring his father and step mother - a fascinating hour it was.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:43 pm
JerryChicken
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Knuckles wrote:The mob, great! I've got an idea. Get the beer and sandwiches on Harold. Why don't you lot get yourselves together and form a union, then you can spout garbage all day long to each other.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:48 pm
SmokeyTA
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The reason why i asked knuckles is fairly simple, and really not offensive at all. I was genuinely interested in what it was like serving in the armed forces as a women or homosexual under Thatcher.
I dont know why they got upset about that, i cant be the first person to ask them about it. Its an interesting story.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:49 pm
Rock God X
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SaintsFan wrote:How is that a 'fact' when the reported figures were around 3 million? I think you need to take a look in a dictionary to establish the definition of the word 'fact'. The unemployment figures already stood at around 1.7 million when Thatcher took office so she didn't 'treble' the number and nor was she responsible for 3 million being unemployed.
So when Thatcher allows social housing to be sold off and not replaced, she's not to blame because subsequent governments failed to reverse the policy, but when she substantially increases the number of unemployed left by the previous government she's not responsible for that either? I get it now - she can't be expected to have reduced unemployment because of the mess left by the previous government, but subsequent Labour governments could of course have been expected to reverse the damage caused by her flawed policies. Makes perfect sense, that.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:07 pm
WIZEB
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JerryChicken wrote:With a mellowing of the years I am coming to like Major though - heard him on a radio program over Easter speaking for an hour on one of his specialist subjects The Edwardian Music Hall featuring his father and step mother - a fascinating hour it was.
Personally, I had no hate left when Major took over. My quota had all been used up with what had gone before.
Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:15 pm
Kosh
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Rock God X wrote:So when Thatcher allows social housing to be sold off and not replaced, she's not to blame because subsequent governments failed to reverse the policy, but when she substantially increases the number of unemployed left by the previous government she's not responsible for that either? I get it now - she can't be expected to have reduced unemployment because of the mess left by the previous government, but subsequent Labour governments could of course have been expected to reverse the damage caused by her flawed policies. Makes perfect sense, that.
Logic has never been that popular with right-leaning folk.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:44 pm
Mintball
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JerryChicken wrote:... With a mellowing of the years I am coming to like Major though - heard him on a radio program over Easter speaking for an hour on one of his specialist subjects The Edwardian Music Hall featuring his father and step mother - a fascinating hour it was.
He deserves a great deal of credit for his approach to the Northern Ireland situation. Compare Thatcher's approach to that of Major – and ask if we're all not so much better off now.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:56 pm
Chris28
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toast wrote:The reason why thatcher came into power was because the labour government was in a mess and influential rock stars like Weller and Strummer were highly critical of labour and were threatening to vote Tory. In 83 it was over some piece of rock in the Atlantic, that the vast majority neither knew nor cared about, and still don't. In 87 she had the malignant backing of the Murdoch press and it's vitriolic rhetoric of Neil kinnock.
Weller's vote Conservative rhetoric was something I didn't really understand but I was 12 when Thatcher came into power. The following years politicised me, even though I didn't understand all that either and still don't claim to but I can see why Weller said it now
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