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If Whelan has said a similar thing about Muslims or Arabs I doubt there would be as much furore about his comments.
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Dead Man Walking wrote:Grow up.
Grow some - its tough out there people on the whole don't care about this stuff - just the tree huggers like you.
Its a tiny minority that cry foul, why do you feel the need to defend them are all these Chinese so meek they cannot defend themselves?
Its OK for IS to say what they do about the West but its not OK to call some Chinese Chinks - you need a reality check
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LeighGionaire wrote:If Whelan has said a similar thing about Muslims or Arabs I doubt there would be as much furore about his comments.
There would have been significantly more uproar - the race card would have been well and truly out.
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Sal Paradise wrote:Grow some - its tough out there people on the whole don't care about this stuff - just the tree huggers like you.
Its a tiny minority that cry foul, why do you feel the need to defend them are all these Chinese so meek they cannot defend themselves?
Its OK for IS to say what they do about the West but its not OK to call some Chinese Chinks - you need a reality check
What a pathetic argument you put up. It's a shame you have to resort to insults isn't it just because I agreed with cod'ead. So you would gladly called Chinese people Chinks ? What about people from Pakistan, Israel, Saudi Arabia - would you call them the nicknames that there are for them and feel that it's quite acceptable ?
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Cronus wrote:Hang on, so whenever we fancy a takeaway and one of us says, "fancy a chinky", we're being racist?
Whodathunkit.
Maybe I should choose to take offence a bit more.
How difficult is it to say "chinese"?
Same number of syllables
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Sal Paradise wrote:Grow some - its tough out there people on the whole don't care about this stuff - just the tree huggers like you.
Its a tiny minority that cry foul, why do you feel the need to defend them are all these Chinese so meek they cannot defend themselves?
Its OK for IS to say what they do about the West but its not OK to call some Chinese Chinks - you need a reality check
Looks like it's not just a couple of "tree-huggers" on here who find Whelan's remarks offensive:
The Chinese community leader Jenny Wong also told the Guardian that the Wigan owner was condoning racism while the anti-discrimination group Kick It Out questioned whether he was “a fit and proper person who should be running a professional football club”.
Vincent Tan, the Cardiff City owner who sacked Mackay last year, accused Whelan of being a racist. “This is a racist chairman hiring a racist manager,” Tan told BBC Sport. “I hope that stops at two racists in Wigan, not snowballing to 2,000 or 20,000 racists in Wigan. I think he insulted the dignity of all Jewish people. I think he insulted the dignity of Chinese.”
The Board of Deputies of British Jews said the apology was not good enough. “Whelan’s bigoted and racist comments about Jews are outrageous and offensive, and bring the club and the game in to disrepute,” the board’s vice-president Jonathan Arkush said on Friday. “His half-hearted apology does not go far enough. You cannot insult a whole group of people, and then say: ‘I would never insult them,’ and hope that’s OK.”
Wigan lies very close to two of the biggest Chinese communities in the UK, I doubt he'd be welcome in any "Chinky" in either Manchester or Liverpool
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cod'ead wrote:Looks like it's not just a couple of "tree-huggers" on here who find Whelan's remarks offensive:
The Chinese community leader Jenny Wong also told the Guardian that the Wigan owner was condoning racism while the anti-discrimination group Kick It Out questioned whether he was “a fit and proper person who should be running a professional football club”.
Vincent Tan, the Cardiff City owner who sacked Mackay last year, accused Whelan of being a racist. “This is a racist chairman hiring a racist manager,” Tan told BBC Sport. “I hope that stops at two racists in Wigan, not snowballing to 2,000 or 20,000 racists in Wigan. I think he insulted the dignity of all Jewish people. I think he insulted the dignity of Chinese.”
The Board of Deputies of British Jews said the apology was not good enough. “Whelan’s bigoted and racist comments about Jews are outrageous and offensive, and bring the club and the game in to disrepute,” the board’s vice-president Jonathan Arkush said on Friday. “His half-hearted apology does not go far enough. You cannot insult a whole group of people, and then say: ‘I would never insult them,’ and hope that’s OK.”
Wigan lies very close to two of the biggest Chinese communities in the UK, I doubt he'd be welcome in any "Chinky" in either Manchester or Liverpool
This is exactly my point - no matter what you say if you look hard enough ou will find somebody somewhere who is offended. Tan and Mackay have history so what is Tan going to say? Feeling persecuted is in the Jewish DNA they will complain if someone doesn't understand their superiority
I doubt Dave Whelan is stressed about where his next fried rice is coming from!!
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