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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Whilst I agree the EU is an inefficient monster if we left it would have significant impacts on inward investment here. Very likely firms such as Honda would relocate into Europe.'"
Indeed and while Europe would still allow us to trade with them they wouldn't allow us to undercut them by reducing the pay and working conditions here to do it.
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| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"Indeed and while Europe would still allow us to trade with them they wouldn't allow us to undercut them by reducing the pay and working conditions here to do it.'"
That can't be true surely, Mr Farage said they'll be begging us to do business with them after we've left the club and stopped paying our fees, says that we are their biggest export market so they CAN'T impose terms on us if we leave, in fact he seems to think we'll have the whip hand when we renegotiate all our trade deals with Europe.
He wouldn't lie to us would he ?
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| My options at the ballot were...
Labour - No
Tories - Hell No
Greens - What's the point
English Democrats - No
Britain First - Hell No
and Ukip, so I voted for them based on process of elimination.
What a horrible racist I must be!
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"My options at the ballot were...
Labour - No
Tories - Hell No
Greens - What's the point
English Democrats - No
Britain First - Hell No
and Ukip, so I voted for them based on process of elimination.
What a horrible racist I must be!'"
I admire your honesty 
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"Greens - What's the point'"
2 more seats than a so called mainstream party.
Under the system of PR used, your vote counts.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"My options at the ballot were...
Labour - No
Tories - Hell No
Greens - What's the point
English Democrats - No
Britain First - Hell No
and Ukip, so I voted for them based on process of elimination.
What a horrible racist I must be!'"
Could I just ask why you say 'hell no' to the Tories and then by your process of elimination, end up voting for a party who are Tory in all but name (only slightly more extreme)?
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"Could I just ask why you say 'hell no' to the Tories and then by your process of elimination, end up voting for a party who are Tory in all but name (only slightly more extreme)?'"
I don't really see much difference between any of the main parties really, they are all in the pocket of big businesses and choose to serve their interests over mine. However, UKIP have not yet got a track record in gross incompetence of Labour or indeed the vicious cuts the Tories subject me to every time they get in, so why not?
I really don't expect any more of them than the rest but you never know, it's not like anything would fundementally change if they got in anyway.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC" However, UKIP have not yet got a track record in the vicious cuts the Tories subject me to every time they get in, so why not?
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 ...... Another Daily Star reader, whose only knowledge of UKIP's policies is the 'kick the immigrants out'- type nonsense that gets uttered down the Legion every night.... 
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"icon_lol.gif
...... Another Daily Star reader, whose only knowledge of UKIP's policies is the 'kick the immigrants out'- type nonsense that gets uttered down the Legion every night....
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Go on then oh superior one, read what you have quoted and then explain to me what cuts UKIP have inflicted on the public so far?
I'll save you time - none.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"Go on then oh superior one, read what you have quoted and then explain to me what cuts UKIP have inflicted on the public so far?
I'll save you time - none.'"
So you cast a vote without reading a party's proposed policies??....
Its little wonder UKIP have done so well, if people have based their voting on a similar logic to yours.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"So you cast a vote without reading a party's proposed policies??....
Its little wonder UKIP have done so well, if people have based their voting on a similar logic to yours.'"
Of course I have read their manifesto, but I have very little faith in any political party to deliver what they put down in there, the Tories didn't mention what they were going to be getting up to in their last one you'll notice.
As I say, I don't trust any of them, but the "big 2" have proved they aren't fit for purpose, Ukip still has a modicum of potential to surprise me.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"You don't 'stick 2 fingers up at the establishment' by voting for a bunch of racist, mysoginistic chancers. Anyone who voted UKIP is either a racist or a moron. No exceptions.
Edit: Well, I suppose they could be both. In fact that's quite likely really.'"
As I've written on here for years that sort of idiocy is what drives backlashes and extremism. UKIP's popularity is one of the first manifestations of that. Telling people what to think, calling them -ists when you disagree with them is evil and stupid. Guess what normally happens to evil and stupid people - the majority rises and crushes them when they are sick of them.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"My options at the ballot were...
Labour - No
Tories - Hell No
Greens - What's the point
English Democrats - No
Britain First - Hell No
and Ukip, so I voted for them based on process of elimination.
What a horrible racist I must be!'"
When you say Green what's the point - why? They got three times the MEPs as the LibDems and they're in government! Need to vote for them to change things (as shown by UKIPs rise).
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"You don't 'stick 2 fingers up at the establishment' by voting for a bunch of racist, mysoginistic chancers. Anyone who voted UKIP is either a racist or a moron. No exceptions.
Edit: Well, I suppose they could be both. In fact that's quite likely really.'"
Mostly the former unfortunately. People like to make out we are some wonderfully diverse nation where everyone accepts each other. But when push comes to shove Britain as a country is inherently racist.
A common phrase you hear when discussing these things is "I'm not racist, I just think we should be helping out own before sending money abroad." Well I'm sorry, but if two people need aid and you choose to give it to the British guy purely because he is British, then that is the definition of racism. Maybe I'm naive, but as far as I'm concerned we all live on the same planet, and if someone wants to come here to make a better life for themselves and to try to contribute to society I couldn't give two f**ks where they are from.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"As I've written on here for years that sort of idiocy is what drives backlashes and extremism. UKIP's popularity is one of the first manifestations of that. Telling people what to think, calling them -ists when you disagree with them is evil and stupid. Guess what normally happens to evil and stupid people - the majority rises and crushes them when they are sick of them.'"
Most bigots don't like being called bigots, this doesn't stop them being bigots however.
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"Mostly the former unfortunately. People like to make out we are some wonderfully diverse nation where everyone accepts each other. But when push comes to shove Britain as a country is inherently racist.
A common phrase you hear when discussing these things is "I'm not racist, I just think we should be helping out own before sending money abroad." Well I'm sorry, but if two people need aid and you choose to give it to the British guy purely because he is British, then that is the definition of racism. Maybe I'm naive, but as far as I'm concerned we all live on the same planet, and if someone wants to come here to make a better life for themselves and to try to contribute to society I couldn't give two f**ks where they are from.'"
I agree with the last bit, anyone who wants to come and make a better life and contribute is more than welcome by me also. However, wanting the government to cut it's aid budget to increase spending in the UK is not racist... in the slightest.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"I agree with the last bit, anyone who wants to come and make a better life and contribute is more than welcome by me '"
Unfortunately they wouldn't be welcomed by UPRIK or many tories. They'd be turned away at the border before they could be given a chance to show what they are capable of.
A very dear friend of mine arrived here 7 years ago to pick strawberries, her first week's wages, after accommodation costs and agency fees were deducted was £19 for a 60 hour week. She thought she'd come for a few months and then return home with a load of money in the bank. After the strawberry picking ended, she took various jobs in warehousing etc but somewhere along the line, it was discovered she had an aptitude for writing code.
She is now a recognised expert in Java, working for an IT solutions company in Berkshire and should graduate from the OU next year with a BSc in IT. She now considers the UK to be "home" and has no intention of ever leaving.
That talent would have been lost, had UPRIK been in charge of our borders.
Mind you, there's still something to get the narrow-minded frothing at the mouth. She will shortly be embarking on transition from male to female, all funded by the NHS.
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"Mostly the former unfortunately. People like to make out we are some wonderfully diverse nation where everyone accepts each other. But when push comes to shove Britain as a country is inherently racist.
A common phrase you hear when discussing these things is "I'm not racist, I just think we should be helping out own before sending money abroad." Well I'm sorry, but if two people need aid and you choose to give it to the British guy purely because he is British, then that is the definition of racism. Maybe I'm naive, but as far as I'm concerned we all live on the same planet, and if someone wants to come here to make a better life for themselves and to try to contribute to society I couldn't give two f**ks where they are from.'"
All peoples in your terms are "inherently racist." Just in Britain - look at certain Muslim "communities" systemstic rape and abuse of white girls (did they "care" for them?); the Chinese community call us "white devils" and say we all stink (among themselves); white people among themselves make derogatory comments about immigrants / non-white people regularly when they assume others in a group will not jump down their throats. The whole "racism" industry / thought police is / are required to try to counteract this. There will always be a constant strain and at different times in our country's future one or other will be in the ascendancy to differing degrees.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Unfortunately they wouldn't be welcomed by UPRIK or many tories. They'd be turned away at the border before they could be given a chance to show what they are capable of.
A very dear friend of mine arrived here 7 years ago to pick strawberries, her first week's wages, after accommodation costs and agency fees were deducted was £19 for a 60 hour week. She thought she'd come for a few months and then return home with a load of money in the bank. After the strawberry picking ended, she took various jobs in warehousing etc but somewhere along the line, it was discovered she had an aptitude for writing code.
She is now a recognised expert in Java, working for an IT solutions company in Berkshire and should graduate from the OU next year with a BSc in IT. She now considers the UK to be "home" and has no intention of ever leaving.
That talent would have been lost, had UPRIK been in charge of our borders.'"
But surely that decision would have been for the Brussels gravy train bureaucrats anyway (if UKIP propaganda is to be believed)? We've lost control of our borders!!!!!
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"Of course I have read their manifesto,'"
You cast your vote after reading [url=http://www.ukip-ynl.org/ukip-manifesto-2014.pdfTHIS[/url?
12 pages, 5 of them taken up with anything but policy.
That is not a manifesto, Lidl push more (valuable) information through my door each week.
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| I voted for my local councillor because I know him, he does a good job in my area. I couldn't care less which party his sponsorship and funding comes from. I'd have preferred it if the ballot paper just had a list of names.
Anyone who can't be bothered to find out the names of the local candidates and what they stand for but rather base their choice on a national party and their manifesto shouldn't be voting.
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| Quote West Leeds Rhino="West Leeds Rhino"I voted for my local councillor because I know him, he does a good job in my area. I couldn't care less which party his sponsorship and funding comes from. I'd have preferred it if the ballot paper just had a list of names.
Anyone who can't be bothered to find out the names of the local candidates and what they stand for but rather base their choice on a national party and their manifesto shouldn't be voting.'"
So to be clear, he'd get your vote even if he defected to the BNP, EDL or the I Want to Drop a Blancmange Down Terry Wogan's Y-Fronts Party?
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"My options at the ballot were...
Labour - No
Tories - Hell No
Greens - What's the point
English Democrats - No
Britain First - Hell No
and Ukip, so I voted for them based on process of elimination.
What a horrible racist I must be!'"
What do you mean what is the point of voting for the Greens?
This election was done under PR you know so if you preferred their policies to those of UKIP there was every point voting for them and thus not voting UKIP.
I don't understand the process of elimination idea either. Just because you don't want to vote Labour or Tory or whatever you aren't compelled to vote for whoever you consider the "least worst" with that being UKIP.
If you had dismissed all the others why on looking at UKIP's policies didn't you eliminate them as well?
Or in reality do you actually agree with something they claim as policy so made a conscious choice rather than just defaulting to UKIP because the others are rubbish in your view?
Mind you whichever it is, neither is an excuse for casting a vote for that bunch of fascists.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"
Mind you whichever it is, neither is an excuse for casting a vote for that bunch of fascists.'"
Is there an excuse for voting, say, Communist?
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"You cast your vote after reading [url=http://www.ukip-ynl.org/ukip-manifesto-2014.pdfTHIS[/url?
12 pages, 5 of them taken up with anything but policy.
That is not a manifesto, Lidl push more (valuable) information through my door each week.'"
What a bag of crap all that was. Still it was nice to see Nick ( Bog eyed lunatic ) Griffin lose his seat.
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