Indeed – and yup.

Could you name these 'usual suspects', because I've never seen anyone on here agree whole-heartedly with every single Labour policy. There are those - myself included - who will say that, whilst Labour are far from perfect, things are usually better for the most vulnerable members of our society under a Labour government that a Tory one, but I literally don't know a single poster who trots out the 'Labour good, Tory bad' mantra you are suggesting they do.

It's also worth mentioning that most of those who dislike the Tory government support certain policies, gay marriage being an obvious example.

Rock God X wrote:Do you have a link to this study? I'd be interested to read it. It was some time ago. The best I can find it a link to the Wail in 2006, which carries a similar story and may or may not be the one I read originally. I seem to recall this story repeating around 2009/10. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... icies.html

Rock God X wrote:Do you have a link to this study? I'd be interested to read it. It was some time ago. The best I can find it a link to the Wail in 2006, which carries a similar story and may or may not be the one I read originally. I seem to recall this story repeating around 2009/10. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... icies.html

The Video Ref wrote:It was some time ago. The best I can find it a link to the Wail in 2006, which carries a similar story and may or may not be the one I read originally. I seem to recall this story repeating around 2009/10. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... icies.html Interesting, but also interesting to note that: "Large majorities dismissed two of the BNP's most hardline ideas. Some 68 per cent refused to support the stance that non-white British citizens are inherently less British than white people. And 52 per cent were opposed to encouraging immigrants and their families to leave Britain." And also that: "The poll was carried out for Sky News..." And that it wasn't the same people asked in each case, rather: "Around 900 people were asked if they supported policies without any mention of the BNP, while 941 were told that they were BNP commitments."

The Video Ref wrote:It was some time ago. The best I can find it a link to the Wail in 2006, which carries a similar story and may or may not be the one I read originally. I seem to recall this story repeating around 2009/10. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... icies.html Interesting, but also interesting to note that: "Large majorities dismissed two of the BNP's most hardline ideas. Some 68 per cent refused to support the stance that non-white British citizens are inherently less British than white people. And 52 per cent were opposed to encouraging immigrants and their families to leave Britain." And also that: "The poll was carried out for Sky News..." And that it wasn't the same people asked in each case, rather: "Around 900 people were asked if they supported policies without any mention of the BNP, while 941 were told that they were BNP commitments."

They're not doing anything, other than turning up. Going to the gym is very different from training or exercising in a gym.


Exercise doesn't make you smell. Sweat doesn't smell unless it's exposed to bacteria for a period of time.

Rock God X wrote:Interesting, but also interesting to note that: "Large majorities dismissed two of the BNP's most hardline ideas. Some 68 per cent refused to support the stance that non-white British citizens are inherently less British than white people. And 52 per cent were opposed to encouraging immigrants and their families to leave Britain." And also that: "The poll was carried out for Sky News..." And that it wasn't the same people asked in each case, rather: "Around 900 people were asked if they supported policies without any mention of the BNP, while 941 were told that they were BNP commitments." Link to the survey (pdf).

Rock God X wrote:Interesting, but also interesting to note that: "Large majorities dismissed two of the BNP's most hardline ideas. Some 68 per cent refused to support the stance that non-white British citizens are inherently less British than white people. And 52 per cent were opposed to encouraging immigrants and their families to leave Britain." And also that: "The poll was carried out for Sky News..." And that it wasn't the same people asked in each case, rather: "Around 900 people were asked if they supported policies without any mention of the BNP, while 941 were told that they were BNP commitments." Link to the survey (pdf).

The thing with just asking someone a question

Do you agree with x policy is flawed though without knowing which party is behind it, it goes to the intent of the policy.

If both Labour and the BNP ask that question, the outcome is the same granted but the motive behind the BNP would be racially motivated whereas the Labour one could be coming from the angle of overstretched services or employment. The motive is everything, i'd back the policy if it was for the right reason but not if it was for the wrong one.
People who vote against good ideas purely because they are not the party they always vote for are also prevalent, never understood that thinking.

Ah ... well ... you see, it's only a "nanny state" initiative when it threatens profits or makes "me" do or stop doing something.
When it's someone else, it's fine.

HI mate, still cant do long walks, 4.5/5 miles is my limit now however i can cycle 12 miles ,strange but true, so she jogs the 12 miles with us when we get the bikes out(not that often lately though TBH)the staff at the gym are great and dont let me do too much too soon.
hope you doing better and you and yours and the dogs are well.

On the general subject – some breakfast cereals, specifically marketed at children, have MORE than 30% sugar? WTF? Cereals are shîte anyway, but they are, generally speaking, marketed as and considered to be a healthy breakfast. I knew it was difficult to find a cereal without added sugar and salt – there are very rare exceptions – but such figures are absolutely crazy. I also know – because I bother to examine ingredients when buying anything that has them – that ingredients are listed in order of amount in the finished item. But more than 30% of a product – and one that's aimed at children? That's a f**king joke. Even I wouldn't have guessed there was such vast amounts in any cereal.

On the general subject – some breakfast cereals, specifically marketed at children, have MORE than 30% sugar? WTF? Cereals are shîte anyway, but they are, generally speaking, marketed as and considered to be a healthy breakfast. I knew it was difficult to find a cereal without added sugar and salt – there are very rare exceptions – but such figures are absolutely crazy. I also know – because I bother to examine ingredients when buying anything that has them – that ingredients are listed in order of amount in the finished item. But more than 30% of a product – and one that's aimed at children? That's a f**king joke. Even I wouldn't have guessed there was such vast amounts in any cereal.