JerryChicken wrote:...all of which is representative of the current situation in social housing where annual contracts, market rents and "emergency accommodation" are its main purpose, at what point did the sea change occur and who was it that decreed that the only houses "to keep" would be the ones to buy and not rent ?
It probably came about when people stopped treating the house they didn't own like, well, the house they didn't own. All the hold housing estates in the area are either no go zones or have been bulldozed. The crappy end of town had millions thrown at it, all the smackheads got lovely new front doors, sash windows and general building makeovers, less than 5 years later and it's returned to its original state.
Snobbishness, NIMBYism and downright racism have meant we don't want massive estates being built anymore. Take travellers, the ultimate in social housing, but if they set up camp anywhere near "your" house and there's uproar.
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BobbyD wrote:Bless. You're the rather special gift that keeps on giving. Bevan resigned in 1951, because the Labour Party (you've voted for them once or twice) decided to introduce charges for dentistry and eyecare.
Yes, how dare people call "prescription charges", "charges" it's not like people hand over their hard earned to get treatment...oh, wait...they do.
We don't actually allow you to vote do we? I only ask as I'm pretty sure you'll have problems with lightswitches.
Prescription charges were introduced in 1952 BY THE CHURCHILL (ie: TORY) GOVERNMENT
Later to be abolished by the Wilson government in 1965, although they were reintroduced by the same administration in 1968
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BobbyD wrote:So Bevan resigned because the Tories started charging for dental and eyecare. Riiiiggghht.
Bevan resigned for a number of reasons, one of which was a PROPOSAL to introduce conscription charges to pay for rearming. Still doesn't alter the fact that it was a tory administration that introduced prescription charges
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
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cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
cod'ead wrote:Bevan resigned for a number of reasons, one of which was a PROPOSAL to introduce conscription charges to pay for rearming. Still doesn't alter the fact that it was a tory administration that introduced prescription charges
Proposal? It was announced in the 1951 budget, dentures and glasses, no longer free. Gaitskell. Labour.
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BobbyD wrote:Proposal? It was announced in the 1951 budget, dentures and glasses, no longer free. Gaitskell. Labour.
No government is tied to proposed legislation from the previous administration
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
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BobbyD wrote:It probably came about when people stopped treating the house they didn't own like, well, the house they didn't own. All the hold housing estates in the area are either no go zones or have been bulldozed. The crappy end of town had millions thrown at it, all the smackheads got lovely new front doors, sash windows and general building makeovers, less than 5 years later and it's returned to its original state.
Snobbishness, NIMBYism and downright racism have meant we don't want massive estates being built anymore. Take travellers, the ultimate in social housing, but if they set up camp anywhere near "your" house and there's uproar.
Your view of British social history is incredibly warped, no doubt by your complete lack of anything approaching a social conscience.
In short, a classic tory
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
BobbyD wrote:It probably came about when people stopped treating the house they didn't own like, well, the house they didn't own. All the hold housing estates in the area are either no go zones or have been bulldozed. The crappy end of town had millions thrown at it, all the smackheads got lovely new front doors, sash windows and general building makeovers, less than 5 years later and it's returned to its original state.
Snobbishness, NIMBYism and downright racism have meant we don't want massive estates being built anymore. Take travellers, the ultimate in social housing, but if they set up camp anywhere near "your" house and there's uproar.
So just to summarise,
Council estates are no go zones and full of smackheads who wreck properties. Council house building stopped because of gypsies.
And yet tens, probably hundreds of thousands have bought their council houses on the same estates ?
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