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 Post subject: Re: Bombs in Boston
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:23 am 
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El Barbudo wrote:Your "loads of coverage" is an item on the News.
Whilst Boston is getting blanket coverage which is in no way commensurate with the scale of the occurrence.


How often do terrorist attacks happen in the US?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:33 am 
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Rock God X wrote:That was my view of the whole thing. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and countless other places will have suffered the same (if not greater) loss of life in similar circumstances, but yet they receive next to no coverage. Are terrorist acts more tragic when they occur in western countries? Do the dead mean more to their communities if they have pale skin? Yes, it's tragic, and by all means cover it, but the wall-to-wall blanket coverage is totally unnecessary. I mean, on BBC News last night, they were interviewing a student who wasn't even there when the blast took place.


Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria are WAR ZONES. It's not really a surprise when people die in war zones, is it?

If 20 British soldiers die because of a bomb in Iraq, isn't that a completely different situation to 20 British soldiers being killed in a bomb in Aldershot?

No one knows who is behind the bombs in Boston. Worst case scenario that DH in North Korea has funded it and the world has a major problem facing it.

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Horatio Yed wrote:I wonder where the funding came from to kill two young boys in my home town of Warrington?


This and all the other Brits killed by NORAID did not escape me when i saw the news last night






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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:55 am 
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:How often do terrorist attacks happen in the US?

Fair point and, of course, should be taken into consideration.






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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:56 am 
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I suspect the people kicking up a fuss about news coverage know the reasons full well, but don't let that stop a good moan.

Bombings on US soil are HIGHLY unusual and throw up the possibility of either domestic 'white' terrorism (ie Timothy McVeigh), domestic Islamic terrorism, or overseas terrorism (likely to be Islamic, but rumours of North Korea!). Or something new. An unusual high profile event will always get more coverage than the commonplace.

We (the typical Westernised Brit) relate much more to the US. We have closer ties to them, we see their culture on our TVs almost 24/7. Most of us know many Americans personally, indeed some of us work for American companies and go there regularly. It's the next thing to a bombing on British soil.

There is actual TV footage of one of the blasts, and huge volumes of footage of the aftermath. The scale of media focus in the US is on another level entirely than anywhere else on the planet and guarantees blanket coverage. All news networks want dramatic footage and the Boston bombings have delivered in spades. You even see a runner collapse - what more could they ask!?

A bombing on US soil will trigger a much more high profile reaction. From Obama making a speech (and presumably a visit to the site) to the hunt for the perpetrators, the media will be on hand every moment and our news networks will lap it up - again, an unusual event demands increased focus. If domestic, what measures will be taken? If overseas, what will the reaction be and how far will that reaction go?

Bombings in Iraq are commonplace. As cold-hearted as it is, that's a fact. Footage of Iraqis standing around debris is nothing new. Almost guaranteed to be a Sunni/Shiite attack. It doesn't make it right but there it is.

If you don't like it, complain. But guess what, we've all watched it and the news networks know we'll watch it.

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 Post subject: Re: Bombs in Boston
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:58 am 
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JACK DETH wrote:This and all the other Brits killed by NORAID did not escape me when i saw the news last night

I have no evidence but I'd put money on NORAID funds having dried-up in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 which must, surely, have brought home what it's like to have that kind of stuff going on.
Or am I naive?






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El Barbudo wrote:I have no evidence but I'd put money on NORAID funds having dried-up in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 which must, surely, have brought home what it's like to have that kind of stuff going on.
Or am I naive?


I am not suggesting that money is still is being donated in Boston or New York. Well i would hope that it is not






Whoever stands by a just cause and fights for the freedom and liberation of his land from the invaders, the settlers and the colonialists, cannot possibly be called terrorist."

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JACK DETH wrote:I am not suggesting that money is still is being donated in Boston or New York. Well i would hope that it is not


I would like to think that people wouldn't be so stupid as to do that.






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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:43 am 
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Andy Gilder wrote:Odd timing - you would have thought if someone was going for maximum impact they would have timed it to coincide with either the elite athletes finish, or between three and four hours when the bulk of the fun runners are going to be coming in.


You are assuming a certain level of sophistication there. If these were instead more crude devices whoever set them off is probably just pleased they went off and were not found.






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El Barbudo wrote:I have no evidence but I'd put money on NORAID funds having dried-up in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 which must, surely, have brought home what it's like to have that kind of stuff going on.
Or am I naive?

One of the first things George W Bush did when he was first installed as President was block Noraid from supporting the IRA. Unlike his predecessor, he recognised the IRA for what it was: a terrorist organisation and legally identified it as such.






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