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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:56 am 
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Dally wrote:Got several in the boot of the car. Latest ferry scam to extract casjh from you - apparently its a requirement in lots of EU countries when you drive there - just like fire extnguishers, traingles (2 in some places), etc. Mrs D spent a fortune last time we took the car over The Channel. They're all still in their wrappers.


Then you're obviously an ignoramous (sorry, we knew that), it's been a requirement on the continent for quite some time, and if Mrs D spent a "fortune" than more fool her, there's no reason to. My full European driving kit was about £30, but I researched the rules well in advance and bought online. Yes, both the Ferry and Eurotunnel terminals sell the stuff, at some considerable mark up, anyone that hasn't looked into the rules and laws (and conditions of their own insurance when abroad) and arrives without the right equipment deserves what they get.

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Standee wrote:you're obviously an ignoramous


If you're going to use words of more than 4 letters please ensure that you know how to spell them, else you may show yourself to be an ignoramus.

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Dally wrote:If you're going to use words of more than 4 letters please ensure that you know how to spell them, else you may show yourself to be an ignoramus.


How many letters are there in each of the words casjh, extnguishers and traingles? ....

Dally wrote:Got several in the boot of the car. Latest ferry scam to extract casjh from you - apparently its a requirement in lots of EU countries when you drive there - just like fire extnguishers, traingles (2 in some places), etc. Mrs D spent a fortune last time we took the car over The Channel. They're all still in their wrappers.






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El Barbudo wrote:How many letters are there in each of the words casjh, extnguishers and traingles? ....



I didn't both changing those before posting as I (clearly mis) judged that only an imbecile would not realise they were errors of the fingers on the keyboard, rather than the spelling errors of the pompous.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:09 am 
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As an avid cyclist I won't wear it, not because I'm stubborn but because by wearing it (as many seem to do) it panders to the idea that vulnerable road users have to be all glowing with an assortment of colours so that the poor motorist who bombs along in a ton plus of metal (proven to kill and maim in the tens of thousands every year) can get to where they are going a few seconds/minutes quicker.
Even the government themselves (actually under labour) are adept at victim blaming when it comes to these things rolling out scare tactic 'safety' programmes in schools to make kids wear hi-vis and blame them if they get hit rather than the errant motorist, the whole thing is sickening.
I put decently bright lights on for urban riding at night and poor visibility conditions, have a few reflective strips on my cycling gear (you can't avoid it totally) I've being hit (from behind at a roundabout) once in the late evening yet hit 3 times during the day, people look but don't see, ask the police force how many officers get killed or injured whilst wearing it due to being struck by a motor vehicle!
Hi vis needs a light source for one thing so during the day is worse than useless.

It's funny how we in the UK even allow black cars to be sold (the most popular by far at almost a 1/4 of new cars sold) or grey or dark green etc, motor vehicles driven by the public are not hewn in day glo colours either so why should the vulnerable who have a right to be on the road (remember motor vehicle drivers are privileged by license)?
it's the motors that do pretty much all the damage to life so they should be taking the greatest portion of care by far, in most Western European countries they have 'Strict Liability' laws, that assumes that the fault is with that at the top the tree (the motor vehcle) unless proven otherwise (in its simplest terms). This pushes the onus for road safety massively on the metal box drivers as it rightly should be
Imagine your son/daughter, mother father being killed because of some bulldust excuse of 'the sun was in my eyes', 'I didn't see them until the last second' (as they sped around a blind bend), another good one of late is the 'temporary blackout', all common ready made excuse for car drivers who run over and main & kill people.
Blame the victims, that's what I say

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knockersbumpMKII wrote:As an avid cyclist I won't wear it, not because I'm stubborn but because by wearing it (as many seem to do) it panders to the idea ... <etc etc> ...


Reminds me of an epitaph ...

This is the grave of Mike O'Day
Who died maintaining his right of way.
His right was clear, his will was strong.
But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong






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