Post subject: Re: Benefits to be cut for fat claimants
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:18 am
The Video Ref
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Rock God X wrote:I'd agree. But this most assuredly isn't an initiative that encourages people to lose weight, it's an initiative that threatens and bullies people into losing weight.
Post subject: Re: Benefits to be cut for fat claimants
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:22 am
The Video Ref
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Horatio Yed wrote:If it was a Labour initiative people on here would love it.
I remember, prior to the last general election, members of the public being canvassed their opinions on various party policies. The researchers listed a number of policies and asked the public if they agreed. The researchers did not tell the public which party each policy belonged to.
The BNP fared particularly well. Needless to say, when it was revealed that people had 'liked' a BNP policy, the people withdrew their support for it.
Post subject: Re: Benefits to be cut for fat claimants
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:25 am
Rock God X
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The Video Ref wrote:Carrot and stick.
Or, in this instance, just stick. It's just another way this government are targeting the poor who, let's face it, are not the only ones who are overweight. Are they going to tax overweight workers more heavily to fund their drain on NHS resources?
If they really wanted to do something about the obesity epidemic, there are far better ways than trying to render people who are already struggling (many through no fault of their own) unable to pay their bills.
Christianity: because you're so awful you made God kill himself.
Post subject: Re: Benefits to be cut for fat claimants
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:26 am
Rock God X
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The Video Ref wrote:I remember, prior to the last general election, members of the public being canvassed their opinions on various party policies. The researchers listed a number of policies and asked the public if they agreed. The researchers did not tell the public which party each policy belonged to.
The BNP fared particularly well. Needless to say, when it was revealed that people had 'liked' a BNP policy, the people withdrew their support for it.
Do you have a link to this study? I'd be interested to read it.
Christianity: because you're so awful you made God kill himself.
Post subject: Re: Benefits to be cut for fat claimants
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:27 am
rover49
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The Video Ref wrote:I remember, prior to the last general election, members of the public being canvassed their opinions on various party policies. The researchers listed a number of policies and asked the public if they agreed. The researchers did not tell the public which party each policy belonged to.
The BNP fared particularly well. Needless to say, when it was revealed that people had 'liked' a BNP policy, the people withdrew their support for it.
It's maybe not the policy they changed their mind on but the numpty with the swastika tattooed on his forehead banging on about 'Muslamic infidels' on Panarama.
'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
Post subject: Re: Benefits to be cut for fat claimants
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:28 am
rover49
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Rock God X wrote:Or, in this instance, just stick. It's just another way this government are targeting the poor who, let's face it, are not the only ones who are overweight. Are they going to tax overweight workers more heavily to fund their drain on NHS resources?
If they really wanted to do something about the obesity epidemic, there are far better ways than trying to render people who are already struggling (many through no fault of their own) unable to pay their bills.
As an overweight worker who drives a car, I already pay a subsidy in excess fuel to cart my lardy ar$e around the country
'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
Post subject: Re: Benefits to be cut for fat claimants
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:41 am
Kosh
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Horatio Yed wrote:If it was a Labour initiative people on here would love it.
Yeah, because nobody on here ever disagreed with a single policy or action of the last Labour government.
What amuses me about this is that the people leaping to the defence of this halfwitted policy are the very same people who are first in line to moan about the 'nanny state'.
Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One
Post subject: Re: Benefits to be cut for fat claimants
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:45 am
Big Graeme
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Richie wrote:You can tell those in our gym that have been sent by their doctor to get some exercise. Usually not wearing training gear. They'll do a (literal) couple of minutes on the treadmill, wander about a bit, get tangled up in cable machine, sit down for a while, go on the cross trainer for a couple of more minutes, sit on a bench but not do anything....and make that last an hour or so.
You do understand that these are the ones that have bothered to try and do something don't you? You should be encouraging these people to continue their efforts not looking down your noise at them.
Post subject: Re: Benefits to be cut for fat claimants
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:49 am
Wire Yed
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Kosh wrote:Yeah, because nobody on here ever disagreed with a single policy or action of the last Labour government.
What amuses me about this is that the people leaping to the defence of this halfwitted policy are the very same people who are first in line to moan about the 'nanny state'.
I'm not defending it, I'm kind of 'meh' on the issue, it's a non story.
Just the usual suspects of Tory bad*, Labour good, like some animal farm mantra.
*I'm not a Tory, i would like to think i can weigh up parties at the time of voting and depending on circumstance vote to how i see best.
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