We could also comment on Johnson who was recorded being asked to obtain the address of a journalist to his friend who wanted to arrange his beating. You will of course want to denounce this type of action.
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Cronus wrote:And although not a single one of you has had the balls to criticise our resident smackrat, will any of you step up to denounce Andy Dawson - the sometime Guardian columnist, podcaster, colleague of Bob Mortimer and outspoken left winger, who tweeted to Michael Gove's WIFE that he would pay cash to assault her husband, specifying he would prefer to do this in front of her kids?
Oh, and he then deleted his twitter and complained of 'vile harassment' (lol), but not before filming himself requesting opportunities to pay for someone to assault Michael Gove.
Anyone? One of you?
Nah, doubt it. He's one of yours, ain't he? It's ok if it's one of yours.
Never heard of him, but assuming that is true and there are no extraordinary extenuating circumstances (e.g. extreme previous provocation by Vine or Gove) that is clearly very, very bad.
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:We could also comment on Johnson who was recorded being asked to obtain the address of a journalist to his friend who wanted to arrange his beating. You will of course want to denounce this type of action.
Also very, very bad. 30 years ago, and I know about his classicist warrior caste self-image. Easier to carry off if he looked like Gerard Butler in 300 rather than a middle-aged albino Billy Bunter.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:Did Cummings not return to number 10 after visiting his wife who he believed to have the virus. I wonder how many people he came into contact between leaving home and his time at number 10.
Absolutely But the Sin Bins very own baby from the bullrushes won't worry about things like that .
Cronus wrote:Fact is, the biggest threat with this virus is not going for a drive with your family, the biggest threat is promoting the spread of the virus via personal contact.
My understanding of the not making unnecessary journeys advice was to limit the number of vehicles on the road, to limit the risk of road traffic accidents, to ensure hospital beds weren't taken up by Sunday drivers taking unnecessary journeys.
"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him."
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WIZEB wrote:Absolutely But the Sin Bins very own baby from the bullrushes won't worry about things like that .
Both have tried to pass their comments off as badly misjudged jokes. This is where the bias comes in, imo - having looked up Dawson’s tweet the language seems to me to be deliberately over the top comedic. Maybe trying to channel Frankie Boyle but without the absurdity that undercuts the harshness. That doesn’t excuse it and I can appreciate that being on the other end of it, it wouldn’t be remotely funny. I don’t like Vine or Gove’s politics, but there’s a danger in these times of dehumanising people we disagree with or find unappealing. Obviously, I tend to think of Johnson as the sort of guy who would straight-facedly conspire in arranging an assault. Not that I’d regard him as competent to help accurately target a beating.
That lover who made the rape ‘jokes’ about Jess Phillips... apparently even mild, little old me is happy to dehumanise him.
I guess a lot of us enjoy ‘robust humour’ and then turn snowflake when it is at the expense of something or someone we value. If you don’t regard Gove as being a ‘rank poophouse’, then I imagine Dawson’s tweet looks that much worse and it is all the harder to understand why somebody would be so cruel.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Cronus wrote:And although not a single one of you has had the balls to criticise our resident smackrat, will any of you step up to denounce Andy Dawson - the sometime Guardian columnist, podcaster, colleague of Bob Mortimer and outspoken left winger, who tweeted to Michael Gove's WIFE that he would pay cash to assault her husband, specifying he would prefer to do this in front of her kids?
Oh, and he then deleted his twitter and complained of 'vile harassment' (lol), but not before filming himself requesting opportunities to pay for someone to assault Michael Gove.
Anyone? One of you?
Nah, doubt it. He's one of yours, ain't he? It's ok if it's one of yours.
You can count me in for the denunciation- no problem
Back on Cummings, it seems that you believe the resto his STORY, wow. His explanation still reads like a litany of excuses for the numerous sightings of him, after leaving his London home, unnecessarily. There COULD have been an issue with childcare, as there could for EVERY other household in the UK, where a parent has contracted the virus but, there WASNT.
Equally, by returning to his office, having been in contact with someone (his wife), who he believed had the virus, he COULD have spread the infection within government offices. This is way more irresponsible than the unnecessary trip North
We also notice that Boris, far from listening to the science, now, prefers to gag them. Clearly, if allowed to answer, they would have been at odds with the government so, it's all good.
Cronus was really quiet and didn't seem to complain when Gina Miller was vilifies by the press, with death threats aplenty but, of course, he voted remain. It seems the #mediascum were just doing their job at that point.
No hypocrisy from the Tory boys
King Street Cat wrote:Analyis of the scum media hashtag.
Cronus was really quiet and didn't seem to complain when Gina Miller was vilifies by the press, with death threats aplenty but, of course, he voted remain. It seems the #mediascum were just doing their job at that point.
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:We could also comment on Johnson who was recorded being asked to obtain the address of a journalist to his friend who wanted to arrange his beating. You will of course want to denounce this type of action.
wrencat1873 wrote:Cronus was really quiet and didn't seem to complain when Gina Miller was vilifies by the press, with death threats aplenty but, of course, he voted remain. It seems the #mediascum were just doing their job at that point.
No hypocrisy from the Tory boys
What about...what about...what about...what about...
Yes, we could talk about all sorts of stuff, but dragging up Gina Miller 4 years later as some indication of hypocrisy is clutching at straws.
Any physical or death threats, racism, etc are out of line. However, I have no problem with "fck off Miller" or "Boris is a twt" something like that. They're only words and pretty much everybody will leave it at that.
And yes, my sympathies for Miller were limited (death threats and racism apart) - apart from the fact she lied repeatedly "this isn't about reversing Brexit honestly", she thought her views were more valid than 17m leave voters and that her opinion should overrule a democratic vote - and several other subsequent democratic votes that all leaned towards Brexit. And don't forget she was worshipped by the pro-EU media including most TV news programmes.
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wrencat1873 wrote:You can count me in for the denunciation- no problem
Back on Cummings, it seems that you believe the resto his STORY, wow. His explanation still reads like a litany of excuses for the numerous sightings of him, after leaving his London home, unnecessarily. There COULD have been an issue with childcare, as there could for EVERY other household in the UK, where a parent has contracted the virus but, there WASNT.
Equally, by returning to his office, having been in contact with someone (his wife), who he believed had the virus, he COULD have spread the infection within government offices. This is way more irresponsible than the unnecessary trip North
We also notice that Boris, far from listening to the science, now, prefers to gag them. Clearly, if allowed to answer, they would have been at odds with the government so, it's all good.
We have spent considerable time discussing this issue over several days. With this in mind and in view of the statement issued by Durham Police, I now consider the matter closed and will be adding no additional comment.
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